He just started filming on the second season of The OA (good show, btw). Why would he have issues being in a second season on the OTHER show he's in?
Spoilers How will Season 2 work from a character continuity perspective?
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He just started filming on the second season of The OA (good show, btw). Why would he have issues being in a second season on the OTHER show he's in?
Until or unless it's explicitly said that Isaacs isn't returning - or demonstrated onscreen that there's no way for his character to return - I think it's a mistake to assume such things as if they're a guaranteed certainty.
Thanks, I didn't know that. Whilst I'd be happy to be wrong and have him return, I still think that an actor of his calibre - after all he's much closer to Hollywood A list status (with a big overall presence, and credits in all three of movie, TV & theatre) than any previous person in the centre seat of ST - I don't think he'd want to take on too many obviously ongoing TV commitments at this stage of his career. Clearly that's just my opinion and I've no idea how "crowded" his schedule could become with each additional TV series but he must be angling for some seriously top-notch movie; he's valuable, but probably not valuable enough that a movie schedule would be set to accommodate his TV commitments.
One question you or others probably know the answer to better than I: did he agree to the Lorca role before or after CBSAA changed the format? If he signed on with the expectation it was going to be anthology-based and one season for him, he may already have commitments we don't know about pencilled in/being negotiated that make the change just too risky for him in terms of missing movie roles.
I don't think anyone knows the full story on what actors were told by Brian Fuller vs what actually happened. I think as an actor though he has to be pretty proud of his performance. Honestly he stole the spotlight from episode 3 on.
As for movie work. a show is guaranteed pay. Startrek is a guaranteed fanbase. For better or worse, most of these folks like the attention or they wouldn't be actors. Long after new roles stop being offered, you still get to sell your autographed photo for a few bucks to people who will adore you till they're dust. For Isaacs its even better, he's "lorca" he still gets to be a dick with the fanbase, if he likes.
Andrew Lincoln was doing well enough before TWD, but he hasn't shown much interest in dropping the southern accent for a return to movies, either. I don't think we've seen the last of Lorca (or some version of him) but we'll see.
As for movie work. a show is guaranteed pay. Startrek is a guaranteed fanbase. For better or worse, most of these folks like the attention or they wouldn't be actors. Long after new roles stop being offered, you still get to sell your autographed photo for a few bucks to people who will adore you till they're dust. For Isaacs its even better, he's "lorca" he still gets to be a dick with the fanbase, if he likes.
Andrew Lincoln was doing well enough before TWD, but he hasn't shown much interest in dropping the southern accent for a return to movies, either. I don't think we've seen the last of Lorca (or some version of him) but we'll see.
“TV” is not viewed as “lesser” than movies anymore (as a format—individual examples of each notwithstanding), but a different space to explore facets of acting only rarely available in cinema. Isaacs will make whatever career choices he wishes but I seriously doubt he would leave Trek primarily because he doesn’t want to be typecast as a “TV actor”.
true, but Isaacs has a huge fandom from HP already where he can sell his autograph till kingdom comes, that alone can't be the reason in his case
CBS All Access didn't "change the format" of Discovery; Fuller had the idea of doing an Anthology series initially, but abandoned the concept in favor of doing Discovery as it currently appears.
What we're seeing now was planned for s significant amount of time before pre-production started.
What we're seeing now was planned for s significant amount of time before pre-production started.
True. But moreso he's used to fans, already, and already liked Star Trek, so I'm guessing Discovery was not that hard a sell. His OTHER show is a streaming show that didn't even get any advertising. The OA just popped up on Netflix one day, without prior warning.
Thanks - and I agree fully regard his performance. If CBSAA were purely after someone great for Captain, IMO they couldn't have done better.
I don't disagree...if that's his motivation....but, for instance Patrick Stewart still regrets he missed out on a load of key Shakespearian roles as he was unavailable during a key part of his life. Yes we know Isaacs sat down with his family in Liverpool and all watched TOS every week and he's said all the right stuff....but (to also answer Ovation above) we have no idea what his true views are on the relative merits of tv-vs-movies are - and he'd never say so publicly. Nothing you say is incorrect but none of us knows his real motivations as an actor regarding whether he wants (say) an Oscar one day (and FWIW I think he is well capable of getting one, should he get the right movie)....and though I agree with people on here who have argued that DSC is doing better than some people have suggested (since the Netflix international figures - anecdotally - add a lot), ST may not loom so large in his mind as we might like to think. I'm not trying to be bolshy, just putting forward ideas some actors explicitly state regarding wanting "other things" (that still get them attention - obviously - but don't typecast them).
Agreed - I certainly hope we see some version of him.
If Lorca does return I got to admit I also think it would be a stretch that he would still be allowed to be the Captain. Heck i'm not even sure if the crew would allow it even if they don't return to their own universe. I could see him maybe start working with Section 31 and their/his agenda aligns itself with that of the new Discovery captain or Starfleet's so he sort of agree's to come aboard and work with them. He could start off in prison as well like Burnham and makes himself part of the crew. He joins Captain Killy and her Discovery and they become a rogue ship/danger in season 2 but maybe not something that shows up in every episode.
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