Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?

[Cake]

I've been hearing reports of people who haven't watched Star Trek but do like sci-fi binge-watching the existing series on NetFlix. According to Larry Nemecek, they tend to like DS9 and ENT the best, because they weren't around when those shows were first running and "don't know they're supposed to hate them".

I recently read this about Netflix:

https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/08/ne...rolls-alexa-sings-and-more-star-trek-day-fun/
https://media.netflix.com/en/press-...re-revealing-star-trek-fans-favorite-episodes

"While The Next Generation and The Original Series have bigger audiences, Voyager and Deep Space Nine fans are better repeat customers, more likely to return for their favorite episodes."

ENT isn't mentioned and despite the repeat customers, no DS9 episode made it into the top 10 of the most rewatched episodes. The most rewatched episodes are all from VOY (6) and TNG (4).

 

[Mudd]

So, what they're saying there is that not as many people watch DS9 or Voyager, but they watch it over and over.

Sounds about right.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

So, what they're saying there is that not as many people watch DS9 or Voyager, but they watch it over and over.

Sounds about right.

And only certain episodes over and over.

 

[tomalak301]

Would anyone here care about this show if it wasn't "Star Trek"? If it was a new IP sci-fi war drama? Would anyone sign up for ten dollars a month to watch this show based on the trailers?

Probably not. At least with something like Orville I was giggling some and hearing about the cast and writers were a plus. Other than Anthony Rapp and James Frain, I'm not familiar with any of this cast and the trailers have been somewhat the same.

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

Probably not. At least with something like Orville I was giggling some and hearing about the cast and writers were a plus. Other than Anthony Rapp and James Frain, I'm not familiar with any of this cast and the trailers have been somewhat the same.

Really? You'd never heard of Jason Isaacs, Michelle Yeoh or Doug Jones? They're all much bigger names than Rapp or Frain, and I love Rapp and Frain.

 

[tomalak301]

I might have seen them in passing but not by name, no. Rapp I know from various sports interviews and Rent and James Frain was just in my favorite series that just ended.

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

I might have seen them in passing but not by name, no. Rapp I know from various sports interviews and Rent and James Frain was just in my favorite series that just ended.

So you've never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or any movie by Guillermo Del Toro? Did you just arrive on Earth?

 

[Tesophius]

I've never heard of any of these actors either, except for Dwight Schrute, but that's irrelevant, I would never choose to watch a show based on the actors.

 

[tomalak301]

So you've never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or any movie by Guillermo Del Toro? Did you just arrive on Earth?

Hey cut the crap.

Yes I did watch Harry Potter but I couldn't tell you half the cast in those movies. I don't follow it nor do I have a photographic memory. I also never saw Crouching Tiger and without looking it up I don't know the movies Del Toro has done.

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

I've never heard of any of these actors either, except for Dwight Schrute, but that's irrelevant, I would never choose to watch a show based on the actors.

I'd never heard of anyone from TNG except LeVar Burton, anyone at all from VGR, other than those who had guest starred on Trek before, and only Bakula and Billingsley from ENT.

But I also follow actors a bit more closely than some. Even with that said, Crouching Tiger was one of the biggest hits of its year, not to mention Yeoh is a former Bond girl, Harry Potter is one of the biggest franchises ever and Doug Jones has become a legend in nerd circles.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Speaking of other stuff people have done, if Burnham and Georgiou don't do this, I'm done:

 

[fireproof78]

Really? You'd never heard of Jason Isaacs, Michelle Yeoh or Doug Jones? They're all much bigger names than Rapp or Frain, and I love Rapp and Frain.

I only know Yeoh. I don't know the rest of them.

 

[tomalak301]

In terms of watching based on the cast, I also mentioned the trailers looking the same so it's not just who is in it. The question was if Star Trek wasn't attached would you still pay to watch Discovery. The answer still remains probably not.

 

[JD]

After just watching the new bridge and prop videos I'm getting even more excited than I was already.
The second half of the StarTrek.com's interview with Aaron Harberts is up.
About the freedom that streaming gives them in terms of content:

We do have the option, and it's super-compelling to use violence, language, nudity beyond what you can do (on traditional television), but I wouldn't say it works that great on Star Trek. It's really interesting. There's something about it. We can show a bat'leth going through somebody. We could show a mek'leth slicing someone's throat maybe a little bit more than we could on network TV, and that's cool. We don't tend to use a ton of language. When we do, it's got to be for a real reason. We aren't really doing a ton of nudity. It just doesn't quite feel right and, I don't know... I think if you're a fan of the show, you understand what I'm saying. It's just not quite right.

To answer your question... I think what makes us a streaming show is getting to tell stories about characters that you wouldn't necessarily get to see on network television. Getting to do some internal, emotional, darker, people confronting maybe darker sides of themselves or more complicated sides of themselves that you wouldn't necessarily get to do, or if you did it on network, you'd have to tie it up with a bow in one episode. We're allowed to stretch that out a little bit longer.

How Micheal Burnham ended up with that name:

All right, so here we go. We've worked on a number of Bryan Fuller shows… Wonderfalls, Pushing Daisies. Many of his female protagonists have typically what you would call male names. Chuck was one. Jaye was another. When we all sat down, of course, the idea was going to be that she was going to have a male name, or typically male name. We were just pitching around the writers' room. We had a couple on the board and I said, "Well, how about Michael?" Because I had remembered a gossip columnist in Chicago. I used to work in Chicago in publicity, and Michael Sneed, she wrote for the Chicago Sun Times. Then, there was the bass player for The Bangles, a musician named Michael Steele. I'd always thought that the name Michael was just really cool and different. We pitched that to Bryan and he was like, "Let me think about that." That's how we seized on it, but I think it's a really cool name, and maybe we'll see some more women Michaels. Who knows?

 

[fireproof78]

In terms of watching based on the cast, I also mentioned the trailers looking the same so it's not just who is in it. The question was if Star Trek wasn't attached would you still pay to watch Discovery. The answer still remains probably not.

Well, I'm usually the different type than most, but, yes, I would pay to watch it. DSC reminds me of great science fiction with an interesting setting and history, not all of which requires explanation. A bit Heinleinesque for me.

 

[SJA]

I'm curious why? The press is still going to have screenings of the show in advance and can write their reviews they just need to wait till after the pilot premier to publish them.

If they refused to let critics see it or have any screenings then I'd agree, but screenings are still happening and I bet even though there may not be formal reviews that we will get some "first impressions" of how it was received embargo or no.

I'm not a media journalist Krandor but I get the impression that those in that field feel they are entitled to get their criticisms/praise in on a show before everyone else! Those I do know in the business - at least in the UK - have a real a sense of having a 'divine right' to review shows - before us plebs get to watch it too! I may be being presumptuous though so forgive me! Presumably there is a economic factor too - I don't know - I used to be print journo- now I do freelance stuff for magazines so modern journalism - the economics of the internet side it especially might have left me by! I assume more people would be rushing to view their reviews before they see the show than after it has aired - so that might concern them regarding site traffic/advertising revenue? You may be right though Krandor about the 'first impressions' stuff - that could easily do just as good a job - and that I'm worrying about nothing! Discovery hasn't had an easy production though has it? ! Hopefully the show justifies their position!

 

[Mudd]

I'm not a media journalist Krandor but I get the impression that those in that field feel they are entitled to get their criticisms/praise in on a show before everyone else! Those I do know in the business - at least in the UK - have a real a sense of having a 'divine right' to review shows - before us plebs get to watch it too!

It's called "their job."

The professionals are being paid by someone to do exactly what you describe.

 

[SJA]

Yeah I know that...Hence the reason why some might be peeved by embargoes that complicate that 'job'...However pathetic that sounds...There are people in every profession who don't always act professionally aren't they? Anyway hope Discovery is great!

 

[Fateor]

It's not a review embargo. Please stop calling it that.

Critics are being allowed to see it. They're just being asked not to publish their reviews until the pilot has aired. It's about keeping even minor spoilers out, not covering asses because they know it sucks.

Please stop lying, CBS is very specifically not sending out screeners to critics.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/14/cbs-critics-star-trek-discovery/

CBS is putting Star Trek: Discovery under a cloaking device until fans get to see it. In a highly unusual move, the company is not sending out screeners to critics for its super-secret new drama, and the company is embargoing any reviews from its upcoming New York and Los Angeles premiere events until after the show debuts on air.

 

[Mudd]

Please stop lying, CBS is very specifically not sending out screeners to critics.

You're wrong.

CBS will let reviewers see the show before it's aired - they'll be screening it this week for critics.

Not sending out screeners does not mean no one's being allowed to see it. They're just not supposed to publish what they see.