Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?
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I want it to fail so badly I got two of the uniform badges, and signed up for commercial free All-Access nearly a month early!
I'm not saying you want it to fail. But some of the commenters here seem to be predicting this show's doom with a wide grin plastered across their face. There are umpteen YouTube channels dedicated to blasting this show.
There are multiple YouTube channels dedicated to blasting everything. If anything, I think that is a good sign for the show.
Personally, nothing they've shown has wowed me or made me think of the things I love about Star Trek since the first time they showed off the ship.
It could be great, it could be mediocre. Won't know until the 24th. But I'll be there, since I've been watching Trek starting at the age of four.
Keep in mind: They're not shutting out Ttrek reviewers. They're shutting out all reviewers. Vanity Fair is not going to write "they murdered Trek" in their article.
The only positive spin I'm able to make of this would be that they try to ape curren GoT in all it's ways, because they also apparently had a review embargo for the last two seasons. But that leaves out of context that GoT at this point already was the most popular show on television. DIS has to prove itself to the world first.
Well, there was no uncertainty inside of me about that, Bill.
If I'm honest, what I can't really get behind is all the negativity and the jumping to conclusions. One author makes a directional comment to one actor in an out-of-any-context behind-the-scenes situation and, boom, Discovery bans religion from the Star Trek future! It must suck! We see images of Klingons without hair, and boom, Discovery doesn't respect Star Trek lore! It will suck! They are keeping wraps on the first real look at the hero ship, and boom, they are hiding it because they think it sucks.
That and similar reactions are what turn me off this forum sometimes, to be completely honest. I just don't understand it. Maybe it's because I'm too easily convincible and too accepting. Or maybe I just like to post about positive things, not negative things.
I don't think reviews would hinder it, even if it was "bad". Heck, The Orville did good business on terrible reviews.
No, but the io9 review is going to travel 'round the web while Vanity Fair is putting on its shoes.
Youtube comment sections and opinion videos are the waste pipes of the internet. Don't go there.
Nobody here wants DIS to fail. But you have a pre-existing fanbase here - not all of which are impressed with what we see. But we don't just shut up, we continue talking about it. This leads to the illusion many people are so negative about it. While in truth, we have the people who are excited for it, and a whole lot of people also talking about it, that wouldn't be talking about it if it were a new product. That comes with a pre-existing fanbase.
Pretty much. Consider me in the 'will check out, but don't have high hopes'-camp. If this show would went by any other name than Trek I wouldn't check it out in the first place - but I wouldn't also talk about it.
Which makes the review embargo even more stupid - that allows only speculative reviews! Which will always covers the negatives! A few positive reviews (if they had any) would immediately turn the tide. That they didn't release any speaks volumes - they don't expect the 'serious' reviews to be positiv either.
I pretty much feel the same way. If this wasn't Trek, but a generic sci-fi war drama, I would've never paid attention to it to begin with.
Yep. Just like TNG was "using name recognition to sell an inferior product" and DS9 was "going dark and gritty" and "never going anywhere". So many conclusions to leap to, so little time.Well, there was no uncertainty inside of me about that, Bill.
If I'm honest, what I can't really get behind is all the negativity and the jumping to conclusions. One author makes a directional comment to one actor in an out-of-any-context behind-the-scenes situation and, boom, Discovery bans religion from the Star Trek future! It must suck! We see images of Klingons without hair, and boom, Discovery doesn't respect Star Trek lore! It will suck! They are keeping wraps on the first real look at the hero ship, and boom, they are hiding it because they think it sucks.
That and similar reactions are what turn me off this forum sometimes, to be completely honest. I just don't understand it. Maybe it's because I'm too easily convincible and too accepting. Or maybe I just like to post about positive things, not negative things.
My take has always been; give it a fair shake. And I don't mean watching the pilot and deciding "no thanks". I mean watching at least a season. If you're a Trek fan, that shouldn't be too hard. Watching it with an open mind, not comparing it to anything, just judging it on its own merits. And then deciding if you're willing to do the same for another season.
I gave VGR five seasons, hoping against hope that it would eventually get good. In that time, I never once leapt on the bandwagon of hating VGR for hate's sake. I faithfully watched DS9 even while every Trekker around me was complaining about it, and it's now my favorite series of all. ENT was genuinely bad for the first two seasons, mildly better in its third and AWESOME in its fourth.
DSC will get the same treatment from me. I refuse to pass judgement until I've actually watched it, but hey, it's a new Trek series and I'm a Trek fan, therefore I'm excited.
Yep. The boosters on the Internet are getting overly worked up about people saying that they're not very excited at what they're seeing.
I guess it's a subjective thing, but it seems like most of the comments I've seen are along the lines of "it doesn't look or feel like I expected it to, therefore I'm not excited" which is exactly what TNG was met with, which makes comments like that cause my eyes to nearly roll right out of my head. Improved visuals and aesthetics that both pay homage to and yet are not beholden to classic Trek is exactly what they should have done. As for the Klingons, it feels like the major critics of the Klingons' new look aren't paying attention to the producers when they talk about the show. The Klingon thing has been almost over-explained, to the point where they're getting close to revealing spoilers.
Comments about the tone seeming too dark and violent I suppose I can understand, but I think people are making WAY too much out of the initial trailers. Since then a number of 30-second spots have been released that feel so much like established Trek that I can't wait to see more.
I would. I am also a fan of Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica and plan on watching The Expanse now that it's on Netflix.
The Orville was panned by critics, but it got some good ratings and a generally favorable review with viewers.
If I'm paying to watch "Star Trek", then I really want it to feel like "Star Trek". If it doesn't, then what's the point?
First off, I can't say I was ever all that excited about The Orville but it does look like most of the critics were expecting "Star Trek meets Family Guy" or "A Million Ways to Die in Outer Space", but what they got was more serious and less mocking and more paying homage to Trek. That said, I still have little to no interest in it, critics or no critics.
And that's how I'm kind of feeling with Discovery. The only reason I'm going to watch it is because it has Star Trek in the title. There's so much I dislike from the trailers, and behind the scenes, etc. etc. I'm going to give it the first 8 episodes, or whatever it is they're showing in 2017, the first half of the season. If I don't like it, I'm out. Heck it took me 5 seasons to stop watching The Walking Dead and I hated it from the first season. That means even if I hate Discovery, I'll probably stick around longer and still complain about it while watching it.
As for the Expanse, GREAT show, definitely worth watching.
As for the Expanse, GREAT show, definitely worth watching.
