We will see, but I generally really prefer lighter series with at least some humour and fun in it.
Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?
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We will see, but I generally really prefer lighter series with at least some humour and fun in it.
I'm pretty sure it's intentional. That only makes it a deliberately bad decision. Can you think of any piece of entertainment where they tried to hide the main characters and plot points that turned out good? Usually it's a sign the producers aren't happy with the finished product, and try to "sneak" it by, by showing other, more "mainstream" (usually explosions) stuff.
I know producers have a bad rep during the creation-phase, because they often like to intervene. But producerse being unhappy with the final product is often a bad sign.
I think this is nonsense. The entire show revolves around the Discovery. It wouldn't make much sense to try and hide it because they were unhappy with it. It was likely the plan from the beginning.
I don't understand the assumption that its bad. Producers like surprises too.
A show called "Discovery" I would've thought would be far more focused on...well...discovering new places and peoples, going boldly and aiming to be a medium for commenting on the human condition.
And it might very well will be. We can't know, since we haven't seen the show yet. They used action scenes to lure us in.
Yeah, and a show taking place in the prime universe ten years before TOS, I would've thought would be far more focused on..well...looking like TOS. Lousy CBS liars.
(I'm not trying to make fun of your post, Bry. I'm just using it to illustrate a point
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Who said they're hiding anything? Talk about leaps of logic. First off, it's entirely based on my speculation, so it's no guarantee of what's going to be in the actual episode. Secondly, just because the USS Discovery and crew may not be the primary focus of the premiere episode doesn't mean they're being "hidden" or that it's a result of the producers not being confident in their product or cast.
It just means the premiere is probably going to focus on the main character Burnham's backstory and setting up the major events, and then Discovery will come along as sort of her chariot to take her on her hero's journey and get down into the meat of the story. The ship and crew will I'm sure get a brief intro in the premiere, with more extensive vignettes or full episode a-or-b-plots to introduce the rest of the cast as the first season goes on.
As far as your question about whether I can think of a piece of entertainment that hid a main character and plot point in the premiere yet turned out to be good. Yes, Westworld. It's hard to describe without getting into spoiler territory, but...
one version of a major main character is completely absent from the premiere episode, and another version of that character only shows up at the very end of the premiere.
Likewise, in Game of Thrones, several fan favorite and love to hate 'em characters who are immensely popular and important now were nowhere to be found in the first few seasons. They weren't being hidden away, they just weren't ready to be introduced into the narrative yet.
Discovery and her crew can not be the main focus of the first episode and still be a huge part of every subsequent episode.
Indeed - this is the first Trek on TV (and the first prime universe Trek of any description) that I've been really excited by since DS9 ended. I'm hoping it's got the same impact that watching Trek09 had the first time, with the added bonus of a more complex and interesting story.
I was not happy with yet another Klingon redesign. I said "uhhhhhhh, really?" to the idea of Spock having a foster sister we never heard about. I sure hope they have reasons for both of those things that don't piss me off.
That being said, I have moved from worried-but-open-minded to cautiously positive and kinda excited.
At SDCC the showrunners did everything but cartwheels to emphasize their respect for TOS and for canon in general. That went a long way to reassure me. It is not a Kelvinverse abomination.
It's a good cast. I like the star a lot, she appears to have the mix of wide eyed wonder and steely resolve just right. I've only seen clips and I believe her already. And Jason Isaacs is the real freakin' thing, a coup very much like getting Patrick Stewart. (He is also funny and irreverent, and is going to be one hell of a great convention guest.)
And the show LOOKS pretty damn good to me.
God, I hope it's good.
That being said, I have moved from worried-but-open-minded to cautiously positive and kinda excited.
At SDCC the showrunners did everything but cartwheels to emphasize their respect for TOS and for canon in general. That went a long way to reassure me. It is not a Kelvinverse abomination.
It's a good cast. I like the star a lot, she appears to have the mix of wide eyed wonder and steely resolve just right. I've only seen clips and I believe her already. And Jason Isaacs is the real freakin' thing, a coup very much like getting Patrick Stewart. (He is also funny and irreverent, and is going to be one hell of a great convention guest.)
And the show LOOKS pretty damn good to me.
God, I hope it's good.
The thing that's the hardest to get over for me is the fact that in the US it will only be available on CBS All Access. Getting yet another subscription based platform for only one show every month seems like such a waste of money especially for a show that's been one of the most troubled productions in recent memory.
I'm positive. Why? It's STAR TREK ON TV!!
Come on, we've been waiting a long time for this. Fandom and the village/tribal mentality of the Internet can make us pessimistic and overly critical, but I think it's important to maintain a sense of wonder and excitement. Starting in September we get to sit in front of our devices, and bask in the glow of EPISODIC STAR TREK!!
New stories, new adventures, new places, new bits to add to the mythology, NEW!
That's cool. It's worth being excited about.
Come on, we've been waiting a long time for this. Fandom and the village/tribal mentality of the Internet can make us pessimistic and overly critical, but I think it's important to maintain a sense of wonder and excitement. Starting in September we get to sit in front of our devices, and bask in the glow of EPISODIC STAR TREK!!
New stories, new adventures, new places, new bits to add to the mythology, NEW!
That's cool. It's worth being excited about.
In what may come as a shock, I voted negative 
I only stayed away from "very negative" because there might be a minute or two of entertainment value from the Federation ships doing things (I do love Starfleet ships) and two of the actors seem like they'll do a good job. So I could conceivably feel more negative toward the show, although it would be difficult for the show to accomplish that at this point (although not impossible, if any show could rewveal something to ruin itself for me completely it would be Discovery).
I only stayed away from "very negative" because there might be a minute or two of entertainment value from the Federation ships doing things (I do love Starfleet ships) and two of the actors seem like they'll do a good job. So I could conceivably feel more negative toward the show, although it would be difficult for the show to accomplish that at this point (although not impossible, if any show could rewveal something to ruin itself for me completely it would be Discovery).
My excitement diminished with the reveal that it was a war show, and with Rainn Wilson's suggestion that this era doesn't have room for many "jolly wackadoo" episodes. I had been hoping for something akin to the tone of the original series, but this doesn't seem like that. I'm also not so keen on yet more focus on the Klingons. Still, I'm hoping for the best. The production values look incredible, the main props look great and the ship design is much improved. Plus, there are good people working behind the scenes. I will try to let it be its own thing and judge it based on that.
It's interesting to me that about 3/4 of the voters sofar have voted in a positive manner. I had expected, with so much negative comments on the forum, it would be more 50/50. I do realise though, this could change, since I posted this at a time that a large portion of people on this forum were asleep.
I checked the "somewhat positive but hesitant" button. I've seen some stuff I like, some stuff I don't like, but in the end putting your trust and faith in a few trailers and interviews leads to madness and high psychiatric bills. I'll reserve judgment (and my money) until I see the premier.
I am very hopeful if that counts.
I am very hopeful if that counts.
