How popular is TNG in 2020?

[Kor]

I think for people who grew up during or after the time of TNG, it's basically the standard of Trek, even if they were never fans themselves. I saw Star Trek Into Darkness with somebody who had never watched much Trek, and he was greatly confused because it didn't have "the bald guy."

Kor

 

[JesterFace]

How popular....
I knew before watching it the other day that 'I Borg' is a great episode. Somehow that episode felt unbelievably awesome this time.

My sister has known about TNG for a long time and watched some. About a year ago I got her BluRay set of the series as a birthday gift after she wished for it. After going through the series her favourite episode was 'I Borg'. Now I understand why even more.

 

[RAMA]

In one case where I've been spectacularly wrong: about a month or two before Picard was announced, I had stated online that the rumors of a TNG revival was really unlikely...well color me red. The TOS revivals had all the momentum.

TNG on TV though has never left, it anchors BBC America, it anchors the new Pluto Trek channel, it's the star attraction of the Trek Blu-rays in execution.

RAMA

Between Picard and Lower Decks, I'd say TNG is undergoing something of a return to the spotlight.

And it was dead as a doornail in 2009, a universe carried on only in a novel series. Never say never.

 

[Captain Moe]

That’s pretty impressive for show so old. Just goes to show those new master’s will eventually pay for themselves and probably helps a lot with modern audiences.

 

[Oddish]

Star Trek, in all it's incarnations, is a force. It always has been. For a time, it was less prominent. But with Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks (Spaceballs to other Trek's Star Wars) and other series on the horizon, it's resurgent again.

Speaking of which, did you know that Spaceballs was made with George Lucas's full approval? He even gave Mel Brooks unused footage (the escape pod scenes were actually made for Star Wars). The only condition was that no real life Spaceballs merchandising was permitted, which turned into the movie's best running joke.

 

[Mudd]

More popular than that fake feminist "woke" ST:P garbage will be when decades pass and it's forgotten.

Everything will be forgotten with the passage of time. Even me and even you.

 

[Oddish]

I'll be forgotten round about the time I stop breathing in a hospital room that contains no one but me and a heartbeat monitor. The nurses will transfer my corpse to the gurney for transportation to the morgue, they'll change the sheets, change out the charts, and get ready for the next patient.

But Star Trek will be around for quite awhile. Longer than I will, I'd wager.

 

[Mudd]

It's relative, isn't it?

Sherlock Holmes is still going strong something like 130 years since his creation. But go ahead and compare any version of his stories produced in this century with the versions extant fifty years ago, never mind a century past.

Trek is over fifty years old itself. Anyone who expects any greater fidelity to its original version than we're getting right now just has not paid attention to how narratives change and over what kind of time frames.

There are dimwits on Facebook who still get all misty-eyed about the possibility of resurrecting the TOS crew as CG zombies - all it takes is a bit of deepfakery on Youtube for them to get wet in the pants, right? It's sad.

 

[Nerys Myk]

More popular than that fake feminist "woke" ST:P garbage will be when decades pass and it's forgotten.

Did we watch different shows? Because I missed the woke fake feminist arc.

 

[BillJ]

Did we watch different shows? Because I missed the woke fake feminist arc.

There were women in it that weren't wearing mini-skirts and serving the men coffee...

 

[Nerys Myk]

There were women in it that weren't wearing mini-skirts and serving the men coffee...

The men had to get their own coffee?????? This world is going to Hell in a hand basket.

 

[Orphalesion]

Okay isn't "Fake Feminism" usually used for shows that claim to be feminist, and talk a lot about feminism and "women power" but really are incredibly condescending and sexist?
(The original version of Charmed is a good example of Fake Feminism. As is the current reboot, really)

I can't recall Discovery ever pontificating about feminism or gurl power. Instead they just live it, ins showing the women in the cast as just as competent and respected as the men.

 

[Oddish]

There were women in it that weren't wearing mini-skirts and serving the men coffee...

Yeah... Janeway wore pants and got her own coffee. And if you got in between her and her hot cup of joe, you got blasted with her 1000-yard ice cold "let's kill Tuvix" stare.

 

[Captain Moe]

Did we watch different shows? Because I missed the woke fake feminist arc.

If you look at the definition of woke: alert to injustice in society especially racism

You have to wonder what show any Trek fan has been watching over the decades if they accuse Trek of being woke, its the original poster child for Woke. It has always had a message about injustice and racism, I mean are people wanting their Trek to be racist and sexist?

 

[Oddish]

That is true. And sometimes, its wokeness has hurt characters. Janeway's the prime example... in making her seem strong and decisive, she occasionally seemed almost like La Femme Rambo, (which was cool), or borderline crazy, (which was not).

 

[Orphalesion]

The problem with Janeway is, as the first female captain, she was supposed to be everything at once and each of the head writers had their own idea about their "ideal Janeway", which ended up making her seem crazy and inconsistent.Also those frequent attempts at painting her as the ship's mom. Because a female leader automatically has to be "mommy"
She still had some cool episodes though, like the Thaw. She was badass in that.

 

[johnnybear]

I could never understand why the TNG movies weren't well received? And before some smart Alec says that's because they weren't very good, I'd say they were good if not very good with First Contact and Generations! The last one with Tom Hardy I liked and it does sort of dove-tail into the new Trek movies with it's Romulan flavour!
JB

 

[RAMA]

They did fairly well.

I could never understand why the TNG movies weren't well received? And before some smart Alec says that's because they weren't very good, I'd say they were good if not very good with First Contact and Generations! The last one with Tom Hardy I liked and it does sort of dove-tail into the new Trek movies with it's Romulan flavour!
JB

 

[Arpy]

^ TMP was a beast. (I actually recommend the Director's Cut.) Later movies had the benefit of larger population and more theaters, but TMP did it all on the love of Trek.

 

[Orphalesion]

I still think TMP only made so much money because the fanbase in the 70s was so starved for new Star Trek content they would have watched almost any sort of Trek movie