How old was Spock when he died?
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Remember he was also 1/2 Human - although in Trek's 23rd-24th century era, even Humans lived to 130 or so.
That's true yes but I'd have thought he could have made 200 at least.
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His father, the full Vulcan Sarek lived just over 200 years before passing.
And even if Sarek never contracted Babdi syndrome; I don't think it was the syndrome itself that killed him, just old age.
As the JJ-Verse is garbage and by this point awarded no points or credit by me, he's still alive.
Wait, what’s this about him being the Second Officer on the Enterprise?AOS?
From 09:
SPOCK: I foresee a complication. The design of this ship is far more advanced than I've anticipated.
COMPUTER VOICE: Voice print and face recognition analysis enabled. Welcome back, Ambassador Spock.
KIRK: Wow, that's weird.
SPOCK: Computer, what is your manufacturing origin?
COMPUTER VOICE: Stardate 2387. Commissioned by the Vulcan Science Academy.
(Stardates in the Prime universe of that time wouldn't say the year though)
From Beyond:
(I mean, presumably he was at some point, but shouldn’t it be saying Executive Officer — or for that matter, Captain — for the not-A, too?)
During TOS, Spock was the second officer on the Enterprise as shown above (he was first officer to Kirk), so that checks out. In the Wrath of Khan, Spock was Captain (maybe they call this "Executive Officer") of the Enterprise (but no bloody A), so, that is incorrect. During ST:TFF, Spock was still Captain rank, but he didn't have a ship (or a job probably due to being just resurrected), so, I guess he temporarily served as Kirk's "Executive Officer" on the Enterprise-A ? while it's crew assignments haven't been fully staffed at the time. Later, Spock was still Captain rank as a Federation Special Envoy (but not serving on the Enterprise-A) by ST:TUC. Sometime after the movies during TNG, Spock is a Federation Ambassador, so, that checks out.
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You mean the PU S31 or Tal Shiar?
Primarily in RPGs and some fan fiction.
Wait, no, he was the first officer. Which is the same as the XO. Scotty was the second officer. Assuming that graphic came from some JJVerse production . . . well, there you go.
It is easy to get confused with first officer/second-in-command and similar practices where you may or may not count the top person in the ranking.
They also didn’t have a lot of room in the graphic, and probably didn’t want to imply a demotion the way “Captain, Enterprise; First Officer, Enterprise-A” would have.
Maybe the rapid aging was slowed down, but not eliminated?Genesisation might've messed with his aging process
For this reason, I believe it's simply not possible to know Spock's biological age.Genesisation might've messed with his aging process
Easy if you lack someone with the slightest understanding of naval command structures, sure. And Abrams and his minions couldn't have cared less, of course.
That's been debated forever and the typical explanation is that Spock had not yet filled Mitchell's vacant position.
Now do the other 40-50 eps where Spock is referred to as the first officer.
Roddenberry obviously learned. He was Air Force and a commercial pilot. Maybe he was used to a different structure. But he (and the others) obviously didn't at the time the episode was written.
“Navel command structure is second-nature to us Star Trek fans, so it’s easy to forget the average film-goer only knows the terms ‘second-in-command,’ ‘first officer,’ and maybe ‘exec.’”
“And ‘Number One,’ of course.”
“Of course.”
(With apologies to xkcd.)
(Also, I never bought the idea that Mitchell was first officer in WNMHGB after I remembered what color shirt Spock was wearing in that one.)
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