How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill them?

[Guy Gardener]

Re: How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill th

Neelix was certainly paranoid and jealous, but that doesn't mean that "they" weren't out to get her. The lack of babies on board (Simpsons flash back!!!) tells me that the entire crew (Except Tom. Tom had 5 babies.) were masters of contraception, and you don't become a master of contraception unless you intend on copultaing like bear woken up from hybernation 24/7. I took it to mean that Kes was on the level or that she was already much much smarter than Neelix because she was maturing at an excellerated rate compared to the dead stop that was his perspective as a fully actualized "adult".

I only found out the other day that Kes and Neelix had seperate quarters!!!

The claims that they had a nonsexual relationship might hold water after all, which I find utterly distastefully Sandra Dee!

Tieran was inside Tuvoks mind interogating the fellow and identifying his weaknesses. He found embarrasment in the Vulcan and then moved onto unresolved pent up lust, maybe he has *&^ing with Tuvok and maybe kes interrupted the interrogation before Tuvok could admit something but... In the first episode of the X-men in 1962, Charles Xavier admitted that he was secretly in love with Jean Grey. Thats a crippled bloke in his 60s wanting to get it on with a 16 year old little girl. Chuck suppressed those feelings for 30 years and the seething selfloathing eventually bubbled to the surface by way of a secondary personality called Onslaught who almost killed everyone.

So that ones a maybe.

Voyager has no continuity. The Doctor made a play for Kes. It failed. they moved on and the writers pretended it never happened and expected us to forget.

 

[Gary7]

Re: How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill th

The ultimate problem for Neelix is that he was not well endowed. Kes facing a relatively short lifespan would have to demand more satisfaction.

 

[KimMH]

Re: How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill th

Which is why tattoos like in Momento would have bee ace.

Chakotay's face tattoo means, "Don't forget to buy milk on the way home."

Jealousy is about feelings of inadequacy (SP?) so whether or not other people wanted Kes Neelix's jealousy seems warranted given his worries about being chief bottlewasher.

Fury was a terrible epi and I choose not to consider it canon so much as it is a hiccup in the timestream that a nice glass of wine and a few real epis can't fix. . .

 

[Guy Gardener]

Re: How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill th

The ultimate problem for Neelix is that he was not well endowed. Kes facing a relatively short lifespan would have to demand more satisfaction.

That guy had two extra toes. He might ave had an extra penis for all we know. He did have sex with a full blooded Klingon, who are supposed to have a redundant piece of biology for every essential part or service in their body according to the Doctors from TNG Ethics, so it's not like there would have been any interlocking body parts leftover with no places to interlock during that particular congress.

 

[neogothboy74]

Re: How often & how did they remind Kes not 2 go back'n time 2 kill th

I wouldn't say that I loved Kes; the writers hardly ever gave her anything to do. But I definitely didn't dislike the character; she was just dull. I thought she reeked of unfulfilled potential. In "Fury" she just reeked.

I remember that when "Fury" aired I wasn't watching Voyager on a regular basis, as I'd mostly given up on the series, but I would read the upcoming episode description, and the thought of Kes returning for some reason was enough to get me to watch the episode. The watching of "Fury" was another example of why I'd stopped watching the show in the first place.

I was however happy when I read the "String Theory" books; happy to have found other Voyager fans who were unhappy with some aspects of the show and had actually tried to correct them in their work. For me, it helped, in the same way that "The Good That Men Do" helped me recover from the worst of my anger at "These Are The Voyages...".