Star Trek can do action as well as exploration very well. I would rather it do both than emphasize one or the other.
How much network influence do you think CBS has with "Discovery?"
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Absolutely. Star Trek is an extraordinarily diverse platform to tell different kinds of stories. I can't stand when people try to corner it.
I generally love Star Trek, but I wouldn't have lasted 3 episodes with that approach.
As it happens, I had the opportunity to rewatch "Yesterday's Enterprise" today. It still holds up well. And all of about two minutes the episode was "action" (and that of the people-being-tossed-around-on-the-bridge variety), while the rest of it was pretty much talking heads. Taut, dramatic talking heads, discussing difficult decisions with high stakes and uncertain outcomes. The quiet, tense conversation between Yar and Picard when she decides to accompany the Ent-C back, for instance... sadly I have a hard time imagining DSC's writers taking the time for a conversation like that, or being able to pull it off if they did.
*shrugs* I find it quite easy to imagine that. Of course, I don't think the difference you're talking about exists in the first place.
Well, they haven't managed any work of that caliber yet. Still, one supposes donkeys might fly...
That's what catapults are for.
Discovery suffers a lot of what is a major problem with a lot of Hollywood for the past few years and it's "Designed by committee, chasing trends, Nostalgia bait". This has been a major running them through many major rebooted franchises and honestly even though I don't enjoy them and find them formulaic and generic as hell, the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Pixar films are pretty much the only ones that do this well.
I can tell you 100% that the last thing Discoveries producers beyond Fuller cared about was Star Trek. The entire view behind the show and you can get this just from watching it was
1: We got to get on that streaming cash cow.
2: Oh crap, our entire catalogue only appeals to 40+ year olds
3: Uhh I guess we have Star Trek, kids are all into the nostalgia thing at the moment
4: But Star Trek is lame and uncool
5: But video games are cool
6: Mass Effect sold well, lets steal that aesthetic
7: Millennial's also love Game of Thrones lets steal it's deaths and killing.
8: ????
9: Profit
The entire show you can tell was designed in a boardroom by 50+ year old suits desperately wanting something that appeals to "Youth" without ever actually asking "youth" what they like.
I can tell you 100% that the last thing Discoveries producers beyond Fuller cared about was Star Trek. The entire view behind the show and you can get this just from watching it was
1: We got to get on that streaming cash cow.
2: Oh crap, our entire catalogue only appeals to 40+ year olds
3: Uhh I guess we have Star Trek, kids are all into the nostalgia thing at the moment
4: But Star Trek is lame and uncool
5: But video games are cool
6: Mass Effect sold well, lets steal that aesthetic
7: Millennial's also love Game of Thrones lets steal it's deaths and killing.
8: ????
9: Profit
The entire show you can tell was designed in a boardroom by 50+ year old suits desperately wanting something that appeals to "Youth" without ever actually asking "youth" what they like.
Trekmovie has an interesting interview with a production designer who doesn't seem to have been briefed on the company line. Regarding the visit to Pahvo, she says:
"That was actually the network said, 'We need to go to a planet and we need to go now. We want to get off the ship, so you need to go somewhere.' And so the writers called us and said, 'We need to go to this planet and they gave us some parameters and said pitch us something—in 10 minutes.'"
Kinda revealing. She also talks about why everything is so dark and apparently hasn't been told the second season is supposedly matching up more with TOS in terms of visual design.
"That was actually the network said, 'We need to go to a planet and we need to go now. We want to get off the ship, so you need to go somewhere.' And so the writers called us and said, 'We need to go to this planet and they gave us some parameters and said pitch us something—in 10 minutes.'"
Kinda revealing. She also talks about why everything is so dark and apparently hasn't been told the second season is supposedly matching up more with TOS in terms of visual design.
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I agree but I wonder how much resitance the showrunners put up for their own idea's. I'm sure they aren't like Roddenberry who seemed to have a never ending fight with Network suits. I hope they aren't complete pushovers or maybe I do because I wonder what their vision is exactly for the show. Having lots of Fuller writes leave sort of opens the idea that they might at the very least trying to make the show more in their vision.
Jason
Sounds interesting. Got a link?...
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