How many Miles is Deep Space Nine?
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As best I can tell Deep Space Nine a shopping mall with some docks, some shuttlebays and a control centre, all built on top of a disused mine.
...plus the clone, the time shifted version, and the changeling replica.
So DS9 can be measured as 4 Miles, where each unit is 1 Miles O'Brien, to within 1.5 standard deviations of personality and body type.
... MU Miles.
Cardassians were so evil they had slaves mine rocks, then put the rocks in space and made even MORE slaves mine them again before sending them somewhere else, presumably to be slave-mined once more.
dang...5 Miles. ...or 4 for very large values of 4.
Posters are non-canonical, of course. I just say it's pretty big because its peak population was about 3000, if I remember right from before the civilian population started leaving in the Dominion War.
I am really skeptical of a slave-labor ore processing station in space. Somehow all that ore has to get from the planet to the station, and that's going to take a lot of energy. Even in the 24th century, energy isn't free. And why would you want a whole lot of slaves, with favorable odds for mutiny if they could just get past the guards and "Civil Defense" automatic countermeasures, all over your occupation headquarters? And slave labor, even aside from the moral dimension, is just uneconomic. Slaves aren't going to give a shit about the product, they'll do just good enough a job not to get punished. You have to spend a lot of money to keep humanoids fed and reasonably healthy and guarded to keep them from running away. In the 24th century, machines should be more than capable of doing anything slave labor can do. Hell, that's true even in the 21st century. All we ever see them doing is pushing ore carts back and forth or shoveling with a hand shovel... really? Okay, maybe as a punishment for extreme offenders, but don't pretend it's important economic activity.
I am really skeptical of a slave-labor ore processing station in space. Somehow all that ore has to get from the planet to the station, and that's going to take a lot of energy. Even in the 24th century, energy isn't free. And why would you want a whole lot of slaves, with favorable odds for mutiny if they could just get past the guards and "Civil Defense" automatic countermeasures, all over your occupation headquarters? And slave labor, even aside from the moral dimension, is just uneconomic. Slaves aren't going to give a shit about the product, they'll do just good enough a job not to get punished. You have to spend a lot of money to keep humanoids fed and reasonably healthy and guarded to keep them from running away. In the 24th century, machines should be more than capable of doing anything slave labor can do. Hell, that's true even in the 21st century. All we ever see them doing is pushing ore carts back and forth or shoveling with a hand shovel... really? Okay, maybe as a punishment for extreme offenders, but don't pretend it's important economic activity.
That depends on the circumstances and on how you define 'efficient'. Wasting resources in the form of slaves you get for free is easy (for the morally bankrupt) to prefer over wasting resources in the form of technology that you actually have to pay for. But certainly, in any high-tech environment, there is a much bigger hurdle to reach the idea that slavery would really be 'worth it' economically speaking, since the more advanced the technology is, the more slaves would be required to match its output.
Was anyone else expecting a O'Brien joke?
Such as:
How much Brien was there on DS9? Miles O'Brien
Such as:
How much Brien was there on DS9? Miles O'Brien
It's worth pointing out that the initial established scale for the model was already ruined before a frame was filmed by a directive from the top to spam loads more windows haphazardly around the core.
Thus I suspect measuring to the established window sizes would yield nonsensical deck heights where these windows were put.
Thus I suspect measuring to the established window sizes would yield nonsensical deck heights where these windows were put.
Cool! Definitely puts things into perspective.
Spoiler ahead involving the new Lower Decks show and the Federation ship it's taking place on:
A common problem with models and miniatures. I drafted deck plans for a ship in Star Fleet Battles based off the official miniature, upon which that artist put a ton of windows. Just for S-&-Gs, I made a 3d model in Sketchup and put windows on it lined up to rooms on my deck plans. To say that they were different from those on the mini doesn't begin to cover it.