They are immortal.
Spoilers How in the Name of Q?
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They are immortal.
Sure...until "Death Wish" and "The Q and the Gray."
Then they were not longer immortal. So they can die.
That's the story.
They have died if they commit suicide, war amongst themselves or the continuum executes them. If left as they are they can live forever as omnipotent beings as far as we know.
Just take a deep breath and accept that season 2 was a massive waste of time.
They took the one touching, amazing part of it and said, "fuck you for caring!"
They took the one touching, amazing part of it and said, "fuck you for caring!"
As far as we know. Things change.
Or, I'll find good in it rather than assuming the worst.
Indeed. I don't understand the pessimistic attitude that assumes everything a viewer doesn't like is a big "fuck you" to the audience. As far as shit that don't make no sense that one is up there on my list.
Saves a "He is risen" joke for the next Matalas Trek project.
The Q are basically Gods. Gods don't die easily. Considering that he is now both dead and still alive I guess sort of lends itself into just how different death is as a experience to someone as powerful as a Q vs us mere humans.
As I said the Q has executed other Q before. Other than that none have died of old age as far as we know. Q wasn't sure what was happening to him but he's back now. You're thinking I'm terms of human death. That's why you're having trouble with this.
Again, as far as we know. Limited information does not mean we know everything. The Q are not immortal though they appear that way to humans.
It could be as simple as the Elves in Tolkien. They don't "die" but return to the Hall of Mandos and are bound to Arda for as long as it exists. But at the end of the world, when everything is made new, the Elves will no longer be bound to Arda.
That could happen to Q. He is no longer bound to the universe and is "dying" in that he actually gets to leave the plane he is used to.
Nope.
I don't think it will be totally disregarded but more likely some stuff will just be ignored if they move forward. Same with season 1 of Picard as well. Almost like season 1 and even season of 2 of TNG. Lots of aliens that never returned or if they ever return would come with a major do over in how they are presented. For example if we ever see the "Justice" aliens again you can bet they will have more diversity and have less absurd looking clothes as one example.
Concepts like the Fennis Rangers and the Romulan political stuff and the Starfleet uniforms are stuff you could see crossover. Maybe the space Vegas planet. Don't see why they might not want to use Laris again even if she isn't with Picard. She can basically be the go to voice of the Romulan government if they want. Not to mention the Stargazer could show up in episode with a new Captain.
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It might not have just been old age?
Remember when he was nearly killed way back in the Q Civil War? Well, for all we know he's been slowly leaking energy ever since in a way the Q can't really detect and it just now caught up to him.
How has he been leaking energy?
It wasn't stated anywhere that this is what hapened to him.
He ended up having a son.
Q's appearance to Jack is likely an earlier version of Q (before events of S2 happened - which is probably what he meant by 'and here I thought the next generation would not be so linear'- or it could be that whatever happened to him happened, and he got through it alive - we don't know for certain he died after all)... but because he's Q, he can experience all those timelines... so, he would have known that whatever happens to him at the end of Pic S2 is still coming... and yet, that doesn't matter to him... because remember that on VOY, when he dumped his son into Kathtryn's lap, she suggested to him that he spends some time with him... from her point of view it was only 10 minutes, in Q time, it was YEARS (but he never said how many years).
Time passes much slower in the Continuum it would seem, so, for all intents and purposes, Q can travel to any point along the timeline, alternate timelines, and he has an immense amount of time at his disposal to do so.
Even if we assume that 10 mins = 4 years in Q time.
Then using this formula, 1 day on our plane = 576 years in Q time.
1 year = 210,240 years.
From his first appearance in 2363 to 2378 (when VOY returned home) is 15 years on our plane... in Q time (using the numbers I used) = 3,153,600 years in Q time.
Then from 2378 to 2401 = 23 years (or about 4.8 million years in Q time).
Or, just barely over 8 million years passed for Q from his first appearance in 2363 to 2400.
Fun isnt' it? That's just a span of 37 years.
Q has a massive amount of time on his hands to do any number of things... and we saw him blip in and out once a year maybe during TNG. On VOY, he appeared only three times... he's likely been busy doing other things.
So, with all that time on his hands, he could blip in and out for thousands of years to 'test' humans... but according to Discovery (that is, if its 31st century is still canon), there hadn't been contact with the Q since about the end of the 25th century (so, it would track that Jack might be the 'last' one Q's in contact with - unless a version of him, or another Q shows up in the 31st century).
Its clear something was happening with Q based on what happened in Season 2, and what was happening is beyond normal human comprehension which is why he said that in "your parlance" that he was dying.
It was a state or condition for him that was akin to human death.
As to what exactly was happening, good question...Star Trek has never, ever, ever tried to explain the Q and they never really will.
It was a state or condition for him that was akin to human death.
As to what exactly was happening, good question...Star Trek has never, ever, ever tried to explain the Q and they never really will.
Q talking about linear thinking reminded me of the prophets. Maybe a year, maybe...yesterday....
The Q we saw in season 2 could be from a trillion zillion billion zillion years in the future. Maybe the Q are finally dying only maybe dying just means it's like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. A change into something new. This also might mean the recent Q is still the Q from the present day but the Q being the Q know what they have done and will do at all times unless they choose not to.
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