Poll How does Discovery's pilot compare to the other series?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by MvRojo, Sep 26, 2017.

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How would you rank the Discovery pilot versus the other pilots?

  1. 1

    14 vote(s)
    24.1%
  2. 2

    8 vote(s)
    13.8%
  3. 3

    14 vote(s)
    24.1%
  4. 4

    5 vote(s)
    8.6%
  5. 5

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  6. 6

    7 vote(s)
    12.1%
  7. 7

    8 vote(s)
    13.8%
  1. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Emissary
    Caretaker
    The Cage
    Encounter at Farpoint
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Broken Bow
    Vulcan Hello
     
  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was an excellent pilot.

    I liked "Broken Bow" quite a bit (but wasn't impressed by the next two seasons). Rest didn't impress me.

    The DSC opening two are probably the best so far, although they're launching a serialized arc and not a Planet of the Week anthology show.
     
  3. SPCTRE

    SPCTRE Badass Admiral

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    It's hard for me to rank it simply because it was so different from the other pilots. Vulcan Hello/BATBS is basically a two-parter flashback set before an actual and/or imagined pilot. Hero ship not featured. Hero ship's captain not featured.

    It felt awesome to me because I love world building, but, as I've said before, I'm not a viewer they had to "win over" with a pilot.
     
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  4. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    2nd after Emissary. I don't think TVH/BatBS were much more than above average episodes, but Trek pilots have been so dire up until now, that this one takes second place. Emissary is the only pilot I would choose to rewatch for fun. I suspect that will be true of this one too in the future.
     
  5. The_Baron

    The_Baron Captain Captain

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    Well she's no Tom Paris that's for sure....
     
  6. shady12

    shady12 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Here's the thing for me. Just counting it as an entertaining TV show, ignoring the Trek aspect, it's probably better than most Trek pilots, even though it's not good. That said, those other bad Trek pilots felt like Star Trek. So they had potential. This can get better but will it fit with everything else? Probably not because there are too many things that are just way off, like the Klingons. So the "but the other pilots were bad too" argument doesn't work for me.
     
  7. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
    "The Cage"
    "Emissary"
    "Encounter at Farpoint"
    "Broken Bow"
    "The Vulcan Hello"
    "Caretaker"
    "Battle at the Binary Stars"
     
  8. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

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    I gave it 5th (as a combination of both episodes). For me, its behind WNMHGB, "The Cage", "Caretaker", and "Broken Bow". It just edges out "Encounter at Farpoint".

    I'm only basing it on the strength of the pilots themselves, not the series they represent. VOY and ENT had some good pilots, just not enough to back it up in the overall series.
     
  9. Spike730

    Spike730 Captain Captain

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    I'll let you know once I've seen the actual pilot next week. These two episodes were more like a prelude. Only two of the main characters were introduced and the hero ship wasn't even mentioned.
     
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  10. ichab

    ichab Commodore Commodore

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    I still think Enterprise had the best pilot.

    1.) Ent
    2.) DS9
    3.) Where No man has gone before
    4.) The Cage

    Honestly Discovery wasn't much better than TNG or Voyagers pilots. Have no desire to watch any of them episodes again.
     
  11. Saul

    Saul Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Broken Bow
    Emissary
    Caretaker
    The Cage
    Where No Man Has Gone Before
    Vulcan Hello
    Encounter at Farpoint

    Broken Bow is still the best. I felt in the 'Vulcan Hello' the cast was still very fresh.
     
  12. WARLOCK1965

    WARLOCK1965 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Discovery was a big let down because in first show no U.S.S. Discovery was there and the second show was Internet showing that you had to pay for and all future show as well. The Klingons look like reptiles to me. So to me it fits the Kelvin timeline style. Phase Cannons and not Phasers the show is set in the earth year 2256. It an odd show to me
     
  13. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

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    And it's things like this that are a turn off to me. They're doing all these cute little parsing out of things, like Kurtzman saying that the first episodes were more prologues and the third episode in the order will pretty much be a second pilot.

    Just make a good series with a solid story and good characters. All of this overwrought background and production cuteness is annoying.
     
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  14. Mage

    Mage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    1. Emmisary
    2. Caretaker
    3. Broken Bow
    4. The Vulcan Hello/Battle At The Binary Star
    5. Encounter at Farpoint
    6. The Cage
    7. Where No Man Has Gone Before

    I think..... Depending on my mood, I might switch TNG and TOS around.
     
  15. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    My complete list (Including "The Cage" in the mix):
    1) TOS - "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (Yep, still my favorite Pilot)

    2) ST: D - "The Vulcan Hello"+ "Battle At The Binary Star"

    3) "The Cage" (Unsold first TOS Pilot)

    4) TAS - "Beyond The Farthest Star"

    5) ENT - "Broken Bow"

    6) DS9 - "The Emissary"

    7) VOY - "Caretaker" (and yeah, I still haven't seen all of that series - quit at VOY - "The 37's"; but I still thought it had potential in the Pilot.)

    8) TNG - "Encounter At Farpoint" <--- Yeah, overall I do like TNG better than VOY - but TNG's pilot (and most of it's first season) was crap if I'm being honest. In fact a number of the same people I watch the TNG pilot in 1987 were with me tonite watching ST: D; and we all enjoyed the ST: D pilot and are getting together again next week to continue watching. The reaction to TNG in 1987 was: And I recall it because we were all of the same opinion -"They had years to develop this, and this pilot was the best they could do?"
     
  16. Visitor1982

    Visitor1982 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    01 Emissary
    02 Broken Bow
    03 Caretaker
    04 The Vulcan Hello/Battle at the Binary Stars
    05 The Cage/Where No Man Has Gone Before
    06 Encounter At Farpoint
     
  17. Tundra Saint

    Tundra Saint Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I find it better than Enterprise and TNG's pilots, but inferior to DS9's and Voyagers. Third place.
     
  18. Amaris

    Amaris Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    1. Emissary. For me, this was the best pilot of them all. Drama, pathos, origin, uncertainty, hope, and plenty of paths to take from there.
    2. Caretaker. It really was a great pilot and set things on good footing.
    3. Where No Man Has Gone Before. I remember being a kid and seeing this for the first time, and thinking how awesome it was.
    4. Encounter At Farpoint. Definitely beset with issues and stilted acting, I still remember being enthralled with this at the tender age of 7.
    5. The Vulcan Hello/Battle At The Binary Stars. A mishmashed convoluting start to what I was hoping would be a fantastic series. I'm still hoping.
    6. Beyond the Farthest Star. Wasn't much for TAS, but this was a decent pilot. Didn't like the animation style, though, never have.
    7. Broken Bow. Probably my least favorite pilot. It just never really grabbed my attention, and I stopped watching ENT soon after.
     
  19. Mirror Mirror

    Mirror Mirror Commodore Commodore

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    1: The Vulcan Hello/Battle at the Binary Star
    2: Emissary
    3: Caretaker
    4: Broken Bow
    5: Encounter at farpoint
    6: Where no man had gone before
    7: The Cage

    Although Farpoint and WNMHGB switch out at times
     
  20. Bad Thoughts

    Bad Thoughts Vice Admiral Admiral

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    1. Emissary
    2. Broken Bow
    3. Vulcan Hello/Binary Star
    4. The Cage
    5. Caretaker
    6. Where No Man Has Gone Before
    7. Encounter at Farpoint