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How do you like the force??
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Well the potency of the Force seems to have fluxuated throughout the saga. This is about which iteration people prefer.
It was the OT that made the Force a super power. Not the PT.
Super jump (TESB), telekinesis (TESB), enhanced perception/reflexes (ROTJ) and lightning (ROTJ).
All the PT did was showcase those abilities with more people using them. Makes sense, since there were more Jedi and Sith around to use them.
Force users were just wizards by another name. The Emperor was originally just described as a Dark Side Wizard, so I'm generally of the opinion that the more "magical" aspects of the Force have always been there just largely unexplored.
Which, with an all powerful magical energy field uniting all living creatures and powered by life itself, how is that not magic?
Which, with an all powerful magical energy field uniting all living creatures and powered by life itself, how is that not magic?
Oh come on people, you can't say Sidious and Yoda didn't come across as way more powerful in the PT than they did in the OT.
I should've been more specific, I meant the original 2D cartoon. Yoda took destroyed 2 battleships by waving his fingers on that.
I should've been more specific, I meant the original 2D cartoon. Yoda took destroyed 2 battleships by waving his fingers on that.
Well, there a 23 year gap of time from ROTS to TESB. 24 years from ROTS to ROTJ. Biggest difference I see is those old men (Sidious and Yoda) were a bit more spry in their activities (force acrobatics and fancy saber combat) two decades before the Luke would meet both of them.
Not hard to imagine both feeling their age by the OT.
Rey, the ultimate Mary Sue, makes the force look like she's invincible. Indeed, they portray her as such with no training what so ever. No effort what so ever, and no real struggle what so ever. Its out of control now. I expect episode 9 to be just as bad. Tho, I don't plan on watching it in theatres, so I'll have to get back to you once it's on red box for a dollar.
To me, the Force represents believing in yourself. And that if you can do that ... you can do anything.
In the prequels, unfortunately, the superpowers Lucas bestowed on his Jedi were more than ILM could demonstrate in a way that wasn't (to be honest) laughable, at times. Like in TPM, when Obi-won & Qui-Gon first encounter the destroyer droids, Qui-Gon announces to his padawan, "... it's a standoff!!!" and they both race out of the way in the most unconvincing manner, possible. It was so awkward and forced that there was no point to even having it there. It didn't "work." When the Force is used in subtle ways, like being able to move things with your mind, or having an affect on other people's minds, it's enough to show that, hey ... the Jedi, or the one using those powers knows there's nothing they can't do. And, for me, that's enough. I mean ... without John Williams' music, when Yoda floats Luke's Xwing out of the swamp, it's a whole other experience. Like ... "just get on with it, already." Using the Force to showcase CGI program technology goes past the point of making the point. That they have the Force at all, already made the point: said individual has the luck.
In the prequels, unfortunately, the superpowers Lucas bestowed on his Jedi were more than ILM could demonstrate in a way that wasn't (to be honest) laughable, at times. Like in TPM, when Obi-won & Qui-Gon first encounter the destroyer droids, Qui-Gon announces to his padawan, "... it's a standoff!!!" and they both race out of the way in the most unconvincing manner, possible. It was so awkward and forced that there was no point to even having it there. It didn't "work." When the Force is used in subtle ways, like being able to move things with your mind, or having an affect on other people's minds, it's enough to show that, hey ... the Jedi, or the one using those powers knows there's nothing they can't do. And, for me, that's enough. I mean ... without John Williams' music, when Yoda floats Luke's Xwing out of the swamp, it's a whole other experience. Like ... "just get on with it, already." Using the Force to showcase CGI program technology goes past the point of making the point. That they have the Force at all, already made the point: said individual has the luck.
Possibly.
Realizing one has the Force is one thing, but scenes like the Millennium Falcon where she becomes an ace pilot are even harder to believe than turning off the targeting computer to launch a couple of protein torpedoes into an exhaust port and getting it right the first time.
That and anyone can visualize distance and time to reach it and time to fire the proton torpedos and, with practice for most of us, eventually get it right. One crash while test driving massively big aircraft and you get paralyzed for life or worse. But Luke was flying his T-16 to bullseye to zap and fry lots of womprats all his life, so there's nothing even remotely Forcey about that, and nobody's going to convince that the Force was whispering into Luke's ear to splatter lots of four-legged vermin. Just something PETA doesn't want to know about.
So if Star Wars 77 could set up a non-Force explanation in case people didn't pick up on the magically delicious energy that surrounds everyone and everything, what's Rey's backstory? Er, um, well... none that I recall. The movie being such a rewrite of SW'77 didn't give me much to pay attention to to begin with.
And speaking of 77,
Soundtrack incorporating the revamped theme, called "Bond '77". Imagine if SW'77 had more disco to it...
Angels of ministers and grace, defend us. Somebody actually made one back then - eww!
And, yes, that's WORSE than the 1978 Holiday Special... or am I mixing those two up with the Donny and Marie Star Wars cash-in extravaganza? Again, wow...
Actually, getting Redd Foxx was something of a coup... Having Uncle Arthur Paul Lynde never hurts either... just remember, the Force required to not keel over from the stench of hairspray on set must have been massive...
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They are supposed to be masters of their craft.
They're younger; Yoda, despite being almost 900, is still active and strong with the Force in ROTS, as opposed to being on his last legs in the OT. Papatine goading and then taking out Luke, a young upstart with delusions of grandeur, in ROTJ (he would have succeeded without breaking a sweat if not for Vader), requires much less energy than facing Master Yoda in ROTS
Are they vitamin supplements?
That is simply how a Genndy Tartakovsky do.
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