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How do you feel about the films now vs. when you first saw them?

My appreciation of most of the movies has generally deepened over time and repeated viewings. 2-4, 6, and 8 remain my overwhelming favorites. Despite its flaws, I still enjoy most of Generations pretty well too and have found a few things to appreciate about the others. The only movie that I have yet to watch all the way through and really get bored with is TMP. TFF is pretty unbearable after 2-4 but it still has some of the best interactions between the main trio. INS is kind of a "fluffy" film that is a pleasant diversion but not really all that fun. Nemesis had the potential to be good but was executed poorly, unfortunately. I was hoping for a good Romulan intrigue story for Nemesis, particularly since we hadn't gotten the Romulans as main villains in a ST movie before but, unfortunately, the Romulan stories we've gotten so far in the series (including the reboots) have been rather disappointing and featured "rogue" Romulans instead of doing something more clever like "Face of the Enemy" or "Inter Arma Silent Leges".
 
As a kid, I just to just watch the movies when they came on TV. In the UK, TNG didn't really exist for us until well after the US and reruns of TOS were rare, but I loved them when I could see them. I remember seeing adverts in comics for TFF, and getting the magazine special for TUC around about the time I think TNG was. Exciting stuff that I'd have to wait ages to actually see, because my parents were cheap and wouldn't take me to the cinema.

So that's where I'm at. Weirdly, my foundation of what Star Trek is are the movies. What I notice is that many of the gripes are that they weren't true to what ST is to you. Not me! It's spot on for me!

TMP - I remember loving the special effects in this. I have very strong memories of this. I'm pretty sure this is what clicked with me and made me a fan. However, the only way I can watch this film these days is to fast forwards all the showy-off special effect sequences that last twice as long as they should. The core of the film is what's happening in the ship and I think if someone had the guts to throw away all the expensive bits it would be brilliant (*cough*as a TV episode*cough*).

TSFS - I probably saw this film the most through my childhood just because of TV scheduling. Now when I watch it, it's like it's got all the right ingredients but needed a better chef. I can't recapture all the bits I love quite like I still can with 2 and 4. Half the film is reused footage, I'd have happily seen all the hostages killed, and that ritual at the end? Ugh. The film now stops for me just before that ritual.

TFF - I realised it was a bit poor as a film when I first saw it, and I still do. But I loved it, and I still do. It will always be my favourite. I don't care what anyone says.

TUC - I was going to stress how I still happily watch 2, 4 and 6 ... but Valeris. May it's now knowing the ending, but on each rewatch I like the character less. I think I'd have the same opinion if she remained a goodie. There is something "Poochie" about her.


TNG films - When the BBC eventually let us watch TNG properly, I loved them. Yet while I enjoy the movies, but I don't love them like I do 1-6. But unlike the reasoning that they not enough like the TV series, my issue is they're too much like them. Warts and all. To bring it back to this subject, I enjoyed the all first time round but on rewatches...

Basically, they should have killed Data off earlier to stop attempts at humour that they got away with on TV. I don't mind such moments things so much on TV, because when it's on TV it's just ours to enjoy ... but the leap to movie is presenting it to the wider world and it's making everyone cringe.

They should have killed the dead weight from the crew too. Oh and not faffed around half having the old uniforms and half the new ones in GEN for consistancy...you've already messed about with sets and lighting! And then they ignore whole character arcs but then introduce stuff from TNG without the need to explain to the movie audience. Either it's a TV movie, or it isn't. they pick the worst of both worlds.

My enjoyment of the films depends where my head is at when I watch it. Either I'm in movie mode or TV mode, but neither quite works.
 
TMP has probably declined the most for me since I saw these in the late '80s and early '90s as a kid. It's aged really terribly. TSFS has improved the most. The others have more or less stayed the same. TWOK is still my favorite.

The TNG movies have all stayed the same. Liked GEN but didn't loved it, loved FC, liked INS, thought NEM was an utter mess that made no sense.
 
At first I really liked TWOK, simply because any ST film after TMP had to be better than that boring flick. Years later, I watched TWOK again and thought it was pretty hokey. I mean, a senior citizen Khan hanging out with what looked like a bunch of high school dropouts. Oh, well. At least it had some good action in it.
 
My opinion has mostly stayed the same. I like Voyage Home and First Contact a little less now, because they both seem a little un-Trek. The Earth scenes in Voyage Home feels like an 80's comedy with Star Trek characters and First Contact is basically just Star Trek doing corridor crawling, Alien-esq Sci-Fi horror. Neither is bad, but I wouldn't show them to anyone to give them an idea of what Star Trek is about.

I probably like Generations a little less than when I first saw it too.
 
I left out a couple.

Star Trek (2009). Awful. Puerile in it's humor and characterizations. Worked far too hard at trying to disown that which spawned it.

Star Trek into darkness. Less puerile than it's predecessor but features parts ripped directly off of Star trek II (Even Nicholas Meyer said as much). A couple of funny Spock moments (And I'm not talking about the head-scratching parts). Plot holes and nonsensical stuff a plenty!
 
...compared to when you first saw them?

Actually, you reminded me of something I meant to ask in my post - are we including the Abrams films? It's just the OP didn't include them, and well...*points to forum title*.
 
Star Trek (2009). Awful. Puerile in it's humor and characterizations. Worked far too hard at trying to disown that which spawned it.

You obviously haven't ever seen the film then. It's like a Cliff Notes version of Star Trek: The Original Series with references to other series peppered throughout (Cardassian Sunrise, Admiral Archer's beagle).

Plot holes and nonsensical stuff a plenty!

So it is exactly like Star Trek, in all its various forms.
 
Star Trek (2009). Awful. Puerile in it's humor and characterizations. Worked far too hard at trying to disown that which spawned it.

You obviously haven't ever seen the film then. It's like a Cliff Notes version of Star Trek: The Original Series with references to other series peppered throughout (Cardassian Sunrise, Admiral Archer's beagle).

Plot holes and nonsensical stuff a plenty!
So it is exactly like Star Trek, in all its various forms.

:techman:
 
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