How do Niners feel about Voyager?

[Jono]

It was okay. Probably only watch maybe 2 - 2 1/2 seasons worth of the show and many of those episodes were specifically picked out for one reason or another. I did somehow managed to watch the warp 10 episode somehow though.

My main issue with the show is that I didn't like many of the characters. Tom and Tuvok were the only ones I had any interest seeing on screen.

 

[SilentP]

Liking Descent must be some sort of Cardassian thing.

I resent the implication

What's the problem? We Cardassians aren't like Klingons. We don't bite. At least, not in the literal fashion.

Awww, but biting makes things fun, especially in the bedroom. Nothing says love like having each other's teeth marks embedded in one's skin

Walking in a straight line makes a Cardassian dizzy!

 

[Thor Damar]

Walking in a straight line makes a Cardassian dizzy!

No, it doesn't! We have wonderful headpieces to compensate for that!

Oh, wait...that's right...the funding for that got cut back in 2367...

But legate,surely that is an (embarrassing) State secret?
Besides a Cardassian is never where you expect him to be...

(not to mention the problems with our natural sense of balance due to over the top shoulder swinging)

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Unlike SOME governments--we actually had the sense to cut funding instead of continuing to pour good money after the bad. I don't think these human governments exhibit such sense...

 

[kes7]

Unlike SOME governments--we actually had the sense to cut funding instead of continuing to pour good money after the bad. I don't think these human governments exhibit such sense...

 

[darthdave]

i am a big fan of ds9 loved the way the races were always around made for good ongoing stories but voyager had a relly strong cast gota love that by the way 7 made the show that much better lol

 

[mysticgeek]

I love Voyager! The production is wonderful ... but ... I like DS9 the best because of its dark nature... characters .. and story line.
I mean... I love all Trek except the new movie :-(

 

[Hober Mallow]

Reporting for duty! Did I miss the war?

 

[Geckothan]

I disliked Voyager, DS9 was the superior show.

I don't own any Voyager DVDs but I watch it often on Virgin 1 and I usually get bored and turn over within 5 minutes. I've seen quite a few episodes on there and maybe a handful have held my interest. With DS9, it's the other way around; there's a handful of episodes that I really don't like and the rest are watchable/entertaining at the worst.

 

[Anika Hanson]

I like it. I do think it is lacking when compared to other shows like TNG, TOS and DS9 however I still enjoyed it and it was very watchable.

 

[MyCylon]

I dislike VOY and I feel that DS9 is easily the superior show in just about every way.

In the end, I simply don't feel that VOY is a very good TV show. Not much more than that. I was much more passionate about the whole matter when the show was still airing, mind you...

 

[bbailey861]

DS9 was a better show than Voyager but that doesn't mean that Voyager was bad. In fact, now that time has passed I can safely say that I have found more enjoyment watching Voyager episodes on DVD than I did when they originally aired. DS9 though remains superior.

Byron

 

[DevilEyes]

There are two people who think that Voyager ruined their life?

 

[Crimea River]

My fascination with Star Trek actually began with Voyager, though I don't remember most of it aside from the characters, because I was so young. Once I've finished watching S6 and S7 of DS9, I'll watch some of Voyager to see how I feel about it these days.

 

[-Brett-]

Didn't like it back in the day when it was still on. Haven't changed my mind. DS9 was the better show.

Didn't "ruin my life" by any means. It may have ruined Star Trek, but nothing more than that.

 

[Saito S]

I voted "I like Voyager, but I prefer DS9."

The show had enough issues and problems to fill several runabouts, but on the whole, I still liked it more than I disliked it. And I think some of the problems stemmed from inconsistency within the staff: looking back, it seems like several of the primary writers at various points in the shows life had different ideas about where to go with certain characters, storylines, etc. That and a general lower level of quality of writing in general from the entire writing staff when compared to TNG or DS9 (IMO, naturally) led to a lot more weak episodes, and (more importantly when discussing the flaws of the show as a whole) severe inconsistency, particularly when it came to Janeway. Meddling from UPN and Rick Berman's frustrating insistence that they "play it safe" and not push the boundaries (on a show that - because of it's premise - had the potential to push Trek's boundaries every bit as much as DS9 did) didn't help matters.

I enjoyed it more often than I hated it (though I was often just indifferent to it, especially during the first 3 seasons), but it could have been SO much more.

 

[RyuRoots]

There are two people who think that Voyager ruined their life?

I was wondering about that, myself.

I voted "I like Voyager, but I prefer DS9."

The show had enough issues and problems to fill several runabouts, but on the whole, I still liked it more than I disliked it. And I think some of the problems stemmed from inconsistency within the staff: looking back, it seems like several of the primary writers at various points in the shows life had different ideas about where to go with certain characters, storylines, etc. That and a general lower level of quality of writing in general from the entire writing staff when compared to TNG or DS9 (IMO, naturally) led to a lot more weak episodes, and (more importantly when discussing the flaws of the show as a whole) severe inconsistency, particularly when it came to Janeway. Meddling from UPN and Rick Berman's frustrating insistence that they "play it safe" and not push the boundaries (on a show that - because of it's premise - had the potential to push Trek's boundaries every bit as much as DS9 did) didn't help matters.

I enjoyed it more often than I hated it (though I was often just indifferent to it, especially during the first 3 seasons), but it could have been SO much more.

This is what really gets me most about Voyager. They had so much potential to not just be "TNG in the Delta Quadrant", but that's what it ended up doing. What's maddening to me is that by the time the writing generally was better, they had long since dropped the intial premises of the show.

This is also why I don't think DS9's first season is that great compared to subsequent ones; many of the stories felt like TNG episodes that just got slapped onto DS9. When they started taking more advantage of their unique position, it got better. And I think the episodes where Voyager did that are among its best, too. Unfortunately, VOY didn't go into a trend of it, unlike DS9; it was just once in a while.

And I love TNG. But TNG is TNG. I want something different when I watch DS9 or VOY.

 

[mattyhugh]

There are two people who think that Voyager ruined their life?

I was wondering about that, myself.

I voted "I like Voyager, but I prefer DS9."

The show had enough issues and problems to fill several runabouts, but on the whole, I still liked it more than I disliked it. And I think some of the problems stemmed from inconsistency within the staff: looking back, it seems like several of the primary writers at various points in the shows life had different ideas about where to go with certain characters, storylines, etc. That and a general lower level of quality of writing in general from the entire writing staff when compared to TNG or DS9 (IMO, naturally) led to a lot more weak episodes, and (more importantly when discussing the flaws of the show as a whole) severe inconsistency, particularly when it came to Janeway. Meddling from UPN and Rick Berman's frustrating insistence that they "play it safe" and not push the boundaries (on a show that - because of it's premise - had the potential to push Trek's boundaries every bit as much as DS9 did) didn't help matters.

I enjoyed it more often than I hated it (though I was often just indifferent to it, especially during the first 3 seasons), but it could have been SO much more.

This is what really gets me most about Voyager. They had so much potential to not just be "TNG in the Delta Quadrant", but that's what it ended up doing. What's maddening to me is that by the time the writing generally was better, they had long since dropped the intial premises of the show.

This is also why I don't think DS9's first season is that great compared to subsequent ones; many of the stories felt like TNG episodes that just got slapped onto DS9. When they started taking more advantage of their unique position, it got better. And I think the episodes where Voyager did that are among its best, too. Unfrotunately, VOY didn't go into a trend of it, unlike DS9; it was just once in a while.

And I love TNG. But TNG is TNG. I want something different when I watch DS9 or VOY.

It didn't help that DS9's first season was full of TNG reoccurring characters.

"Hey look its Q and Vash!"
"ZOMG It is the Duras sisters."
"Ugh Lwaxana Troi"

 

[PKTrekGirl]

^ Agreed.

In many ways, the best thing that ever happened to DS9 was the TNG movies and VOY...because those things kept Rick Berman occupied and as a result, Ira Behr and the writers had more freedom (even if they had to steal it) to take the show where they wanted.

DS9 season 1 is okay....and there are a few gems in there that give you a whisper of things to come. But until the show found it's own soul, it wasn't nearly as good as it ended up being later.

 

[apenpaap]

You know, when you look at the worst seasons of each of the Trek spinoffs, you'll notice in those seasons they were always trying to emulate other Treks: in TNG seasons 1-2 they were doing TOS, in DS9 season 1, VOY season 5-7 and Ent season 1-2 they were doing TNG.

Then again, ENT season 3 rocks, even though they were doing DS9.