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How Did Earth Get United?

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I started thinking after reading Niven's first Kzinti story, "The Warriors," which has a very brief explanation of how the Earth in his universe acheived world peace for 300 years. Over in the Trek Lit board, there's another discussion going on about WWIII, which seemed to be the immediate precursor to the Earth uniting in the Trek timeline. But I don't think there's ever been much discussion about exactly what caused such a drastic, overnight change. It's almost like everybody woke up one morning and decided to stop being jerks.
The explanation in "The Warriors" had something to do with improvements in psychology, population control, and increasing food production. The Vulcans did it by controlling their emotions. Other sci-fi authors have various theories like controlling religion or other things that cause people to fight each other.
How do you think that the Earth in Star Trek became united?
 
Keep in mind-major galactic exploration (in canon) hinged on warp 4 ships. It took 100 years to go from first contact to warp 4. Plenty of time for the smoothing out of Earth's society into a unified whole. I picture a process similar to what Clarke described in Childhood's End(without the end results of Humanity becoming Other, of course).
 
It was probably a combination of factors. From advancing technology (not just Cochrane's warp engine) to a "Never again" mentality developing in the post-WWIII planet (maybe the right people came into the right positions and said, 'fuck this constantly fighting amongst ourselves bullshit, we've killed over 600 million people!'), as well as the realisation from First Contact that our tiny differences don't mean squat in the grand galactic scheme of things.
 
Well after WWIII most of the politicians and political systems that kept us separate were destroyed, so any corrupting or nationalistic elements from the old order would've gone up with them. Plus I'd say that enough people were killed off that humanity had to become more interdependent on each other considering the state Earth was in to survive especially with the greater universe staring them down.

So all that together, plus 100 or so years between FC and ENT would be enough to get us on the track to a more United Earth.
 
They found and utilized a successful way for mass-brainwashing IMO. That's the only thing that makes sense that would have those involved in religious-inspired wars to lay down their arms. They wouldn't care how many died in WWIII or anything like that. Or terminating all of them. I'm sure some posters would say something like "they just all stopped being religious and converted to secular humanism", but that is not something that would ever happen without mass-brainwashing or mass terminations.
 
See, that's what I'm saying. It couldn't be just everyone saying "let's all be nice." There will still always be people with enough hate or avarice to make problems. I kinda think it had to be something much more drastic than everyone, even over the course of time, just deciding they finally had to get it together now.
 
Since it took until 2150 (just a few years prior to the NX-01's launch) for every nation on Earth to join the United Earth I assume it was a long drawn out process, with more than a few missteps along the way. The events of the post-atomic horror in 2079 (nearly two decades after first contact) shows that not everyone joined hands and sang kumbaya in 2061. It been said that the UE was an outgrowth of the European Hegemony.
 
They found and utilized a successful way for mass-brainwashing IMO. That's the only thing that makes sense that would have those involved in religious-inspired wars to lay down their arms. They wouldn't care how many died in WWIII or anything like that. Or terminating all of them. I'm sure some posters would say something like "they just all stopped being religious and converted to secular humanism", but that is not something that would ever happen without mass-brainwashing or mass terminations.

And that presupposes that both religion is the cause of most conflicts, and the conversion of all individuals to some non-religious philosophy (or elimination of all individuals who refuse to ascribe to said philosophy) would cause everyone to get along.

Even if the presuppositions were true, I agree that the situation that you described is highly unlikely to occur.
 
Well after WWIII most of the politicians and political systems that kept us separate were destroyed, so any corrupting or nationalistic elements from the old order would've gone up with them. Plus I'd say that enough people were killed off that humanity had to become more interdependent on each other considering the state Earth was in to survive especially with the greater universe staring them down.

So all that together, plus 100 or so years between FC and ENT would be enough to get us on the track to a more United Earth.


The problem is that nationalism still exists even in 2151. Remember, the British Royal Navy still exists in some form in the 22nd century. That implies that United Earth still is not quite developed. (this is one of the problems that I had with Enterprise as a whole, because I don't think they ever took the time to genuinely consider what 22nd century Earth was really like).

I suppose one could argue that United Earth was an out growth of WWIII (Just as the League of Nations was an outgrowth of WWI and The United Nations was forged in the fires of WWII). Ultimately, the answer to this question I suspect lies in the nature of WWIII. Lilly's comment about "factions" in 2063 indicates that WWIII Earth had become very divided. The DS9 Episode "Past Tense" paints a picture of earth in 2029 that was gradually slipping into chaos. The US constitution clearly was not fuctioning properly and there were reports of Neo-Trotskite riots/revolutions breaking out all across Europe. Its likely that the nation state system started breaking down, which is why the New United Nations was not in a position to manage the situation. If we throw in the possibility that there was also a religious aspect to some of the conflict, and the left over paranoia from the Eugenics War....WWIII makes alot of what we seen in 23rd/24th centruy Earth seem more plausible. A world wide holocaust caused by rampant tribalism/nationalism and religious fervor might explain why these things vanished or diminished in the aftermath of the war. They simply burned themselves out.

Remember, after WWII, amongst the people themselves (if not strictly speaking the governments) there was a sense that things had gone too far. The Brutality of the war led many people to want an institution that could make such wars impossible. The United Nations was supposed to be that body. It was initially concieved of as an embryonic world government. It had legally binding decisions and even the ability to wage war. The European Coal and Steel community was born for much the same reason. The UN, as it turned out, failed to be that government. Once the dust of war cleared and civilization picked itself back up, the old nationalism reemerged though outside forced (i.e. the US and USSR) worked to keep nationalism in check in Europe (thus creating the space for the EU to eventually emerge). However, the only reason the world recoved as fast as it did is because, for all the fighting that it did, the US and the rest of the nations of the Americas, were left untouched by the war. This left an industrial, educational and economic base intact to facilitate recovery. In the aftermath of a global thermonuclear war (which was itself preceded by a devastating war...and then followd up by a campaign of genocide by Colonel Green.....its not hard to imagine that an exhausted and impoverished population had had enough of war, fighting, religion, nationalism etc. They just wanted peace and the return to some sense of stability. Once the Vulcans arrived and brought the material support necessary to facilitate recovery (as well as the schocking revellation that humans are not alone and that there vast numbers of civilizations...both friendly and hostile "out there") the human race found a reason to band together. No doubt the Vulcans, with their impecable logic, also encouraged a woundeed but healing humanity that unity (and logic) was probably the best way to keep such a catastrophe from happening again. A truly traumatised world would finally be willing to listen and heed that advice.


Much as WWII had a deep emotional effect on Europeans, and made them far more adverse to war and open to cooperation, it seems likely that WWIII had the same effect on the rest of the world.
 
They found and utilized a successful way for mass-brainwashing IMO. That's the only thing that makes sense that would have those involved in religious-inspired wars to lay down their arms. They wouldn't care how many died in WWIII or anything like that. Or terminating all of them. I'm sure some posters would say something like "they just all stopped being religious and converted to secular humanism", but that is not something that would ever happen without mass-brainwashing or mass terminations.

And that presupposes that both religion is the cause of most conflicts, and the conversion of all individuals to some non-religious philosophy (or elimination of all individuals who refuse to ascribe to said philosophy) would cause everyone to get along.

Even if the presuppositions were true, I agree that the situation that you described is highly unlikely to occur.

I think its highly likely....especially if one of the causes of a war that slaughtered millions was religious fervor. It makes perfect sense to me that people who were traumatised by a devastating war that involved religion, might decide that they wanted nothing more to do with that....especially since its quite likely that the most devout followers would likely have been killed in the war.
 
When you figure it out let me know. Where I sit it looks like it would take a heck of a lot more than even collapse of governments to overcome entrenched xenophobic racism and discrimination. You go to any small town and you find people vying for higher status while belittling, degrading and misinterpreting others for their own self-promotion. Let alone compare them to others on a global scale, for instance, the millions of other people who, if they even know that small town, would basically dismiss anyone from there at all.

I think it must have started with education, replication, abundance, and rational law, and worked itself out over time. The premise of Trek is that people became enlightened and rational and kind. We found a new way, not an old, unjust way.
 
I realize that the point of this thread is to figure out how humans in Trek's future reached the outcome of a single planetary government; however, I want to point out that a single planetary government isn't necessarily an ideal outcome in the real world. It seems to me that an equally compelling future world might be one consisting of sovereign nations that are content not to blow each other up.
 
Well, in his books the future Earth is divided up into the United Federal Republic (all of North America, Central America and some of South America), the Brazilian Empire (the rest of South America), the Euro-Union, Russia, the Kingdom of Allah (All of the Middle East and Africa) and the People's Hegemony (China and most of Asia).
 
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