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How could Robocop afford that house?

Murphy's house was probably in a crummy school district. That has a way of really lowering the price of homes.

RoboCop 2 was pretty distasteful and Irvin Kershner should have known better. How a director who helmed some really beautiful films as well as the best damned Star Wars movie got stuck on this thing is a minor mystery. And Leonard Rosenmann's usual stiff "it worked for Combat!" score doesn't help. The "RoboCOP!" chorus theme was laughable. The best thing RoboCop 3 did was bring back Basil Poledouris.

You seen any of those videos where people edit the Poledouris score back into some Robocop 2 scenes? It fits quite well.
 
Robocop 2 was ok. The kid really annoyed me, which made it hard to concentrate a lot during the film. Poor Robocop seemed to be reset back to more like he was when he first became active in the first film. It plays better as a dumb popcorn movie.

Robocop 3 had to recast Peter Weller, and I really missed him. I didn't even remember it happening when I watched it years ago. I was able to pay attention to this one a little more than Robocop 2, but it was still pretty average.

I'm glad I've watched them though, it's been fun revisiting the universe, and I loved the original much more than I remembered. Which is just as well with the last two. :techman:
 
As a journalist, I covered a lot of public servant, publicly available salary reports, including several police departments. Despite appearances or common perception, cops make a shitton of money when you factor in things like overtime, etc. It's well into the six-figures.
 
As a journalist, I covered a lot of public servant, publicly available salary reports, including several police departments. Despite appearances or common perception, cops make a shitton of money when you factor in things like overtime, etc. It's well into the six-figures.

I know two neighbors who were Washington State Patrol. One is a few years older than me and the other is the same age. Both retired at 50 and never have to work another day in their life. They live off their pensions and (until Covid) travel.
 
RoboCop 2 was pretty distasteful and Irvin Kershner should have known better. How a director who helmed some really beautiful films as well as the best damned Star Wars movie got stuck on this thing is a minor mystery.

It's not a mystery at all. Orion had a very, very tight timeframe to get RoboCop 2 produced and into theaters because of a--very boneheaded--distribution deal it had made with the theater chains (which is why RoboCop 3 was produced back-to-back, although the latter sat on the shelf for a few years as Orion went through bankruptcy), and after original director Tim Hunter basically had a mental breakdown from the pressures of the project, producer Jon Davison went to Kershner and said, "Can you shoot this movie in two months?" Kershner was no stranger to whacko budgets and tight deadlines--look at Empire Strikes Back, after all--and said that he could do it.

Unfortunately, he was stricken with a very, very bad bout of the flu literally right when filming began; it was so severe that it nearly killed him. As it was, Kersh spent the first month and a half or so of principal photography directing from a wheelchair. He was always very intensely disappointed with the finished film and it's one of the reasons he stopped directing altogether.

I can't decide if Frank Miller didn't get/understand the satire and violence of the first movie and decided to parody it and ramp it up to eleven, or if he genuinely feels that way about women/cops/television/corporations.

It's the latter. Sure, you can talk about how influential things like Dark Knight Returns or Year One or Daredevil: Born Again were, but look at them with a more nuanced--or jaundiced--eye and you can see that his insanity was always there, he just did a better job of hiding it. (I mean, hell, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles literally began as a satire of Miller's excesses on Daredevil.)
 
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Heck, IIRC the first idea for Robocop 2 was Murphy being badly damaged and then taken offline only to be restored like 100 years later in some more clear sci-fi future world.
 
I know plenty of cops in Albuquerque that have very nice houses. It's not uncommon for veteran officers to come close to $100,000 a year when you account for overtime. I would imagine, adjusted for time and inflation of course, that Murphy brought home plenty of overtime money.
 
It's not a mystery at all.

Well, it was a mystery to me. :) Thanks for filling me in, I had no idea he had such a short time. I thought Kershner did a fine job on the SeaQuest DSV pilot, which looks to have been his final directing credit.
 
Oh, Seaquest. How could I forgot that show? One of my favorite shows and had Dr. Bob Ballard as well! Pilot and first season were my favorites.
 
Heck, IIRC the first idea for Robocop 2 was Murphy being badly damaged and then taken offline only to be restored like 100 years later in some more clear sci-fi future world.

Yeah, that was the pitch for The Corporate Wars, the script that Michael Miner and Edward Neumeier were working on before they got fired. I have one of the drafts somewhere on my computer and, quite frankly, I can't imagine how much of how many substances were consumed during the writing of it, but it has to be a lot. It's been a while since I've read it cover-to-cover, but RoboCop, as we know him, is missing from like two-thirds of the movie.

The producers of The Series liked to boast that the pilot episode, "The Future of Law Enforcement," was written by Michael Miner, and while it does take some elements from Corporate Wars (Diana / NeuroBrain, RoboCop getting a grenade to the chest in the cold open), it bears almost no resemblance to what Neumeier and Miner wrote, which veered far more into comedy than the dystopian satire of the original movie.

As bad as RoboCop 2 is, it's still better than The Corporate Wars (at least the draft that I have).
 
Does anyone remember the TV version from back in the day?

"Once I even called him.......airhead!" :rommie:
 
My local NPR station, along with the Seattle Times, this week, did an investigation into off-duty police officers and how much they make while working traffic control at construction sites, sporting events, etc., and who pays for it.
Starting pay for an off-duty police officer to direct traffic at construction sites is $90/hr.
 
Does anyone remember the TV version from back in the day?

"Once I even called him.......airhead!" :rommie:

The version I saw had him say: "A lot worse."

Also, they had the car swerve around Toxic Waste Guy instead of splattering him.
 
That's worse...now the guy has to LIVE like that. :eek: :(

At least in the theatrical version, he was destroyed instantly, so he didn't have to suffer...

In his condition, I doubt he survived long. Anything that would have turned him into Toxix Waste Man in seconds would certainly have killed him in minutes. Point was, they either computer-faked or reshot the scene to tone down the gore.
 
They should have used him in Robocop 2... he'd have been a better villain than either the druggie psycho or that moppet.
 
I've been watching them this week as well. I remember enjoying the original when I was younger, so I bought the trilogy. It still holds up, but it's a lot more violent that I remember. :lol:

Can't remember much about the sequels though.
They had to tone down some of the violent such as Boddicker shooting off Murphy's arm. It was released as either unrated or had a higher rating.

Some of the sequels pretty forgettable, especially the 3rd one where Peter Weller didn't return.
 
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