I agree with the grading as well, Wonder how Aussie grades MT comparatively
How bad is season 3?
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I agree with the grading as well, Wonder how Aussie grades MT comparatively
number6
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I don't think season three was that bad, actually.. It certainly had a different tone, at times a B-Film/Film Noir vibe to it. You could really tell how much they were doing with so little. The Mark of Gideon tackled birth control, and controlling the population by introducing an incurable virus--both painfully relevant today. Granted I could have done without Space Hippies and Alien Abraham Lincoln, but All Our Yesterdays was brilliant, as was Spectre Of the Gun, and the Paradise Syndrome. I think there were more good then people give credit for.
I can only recall a handful of dumb ones, but they are still enjoyable in an Adam West/Batman sort of way.
I can only recall a handful of dumb ones, but they are still enjoyable in an Adam West/Batman sort of way.
That's how I characterize "Whom Gods Destroy." Indeed, I'm fond of saying it's what we would have got had Batman ever gone to Arkham, just swap out West for Shatner and Caeser Romero for Steve Inhat.
number6
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That's how I characterize "Whom Gods Destroy." Indeed, I'm fond of saying it's what we would have got had Batman ever gone to Arkham, just swap out West for Shatner and Caeser Romero for Steve Inhat.
That one and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" complete with the crazy Red Alert Zooming effect. I felt they should have tilted the camera every time Gorshin was in frame.
They took some daring chances though, pushing the envelope with the Chekov/Klingon almost rape scene..We never got anything that brutal since "The Enemy Within." Hell even Spock looks like he's getting some in "The Cloud Minders" and "The Enterprise Incident."
Of course the other thing I find fun in season three is best described in this thread:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=33669
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Even when it was bad TOS was never boring.
Contemporary cannot ever make that claim. A lot of modern Trek has often been bad AND boring.
I fully agree here. TOS was far more colorful than any of the other Trek shows. Even at its worst.
SpatialDude
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What was wrong with people back in the 60s? They had one of the greatest TV shows ever and let it go.
I gotta disagree with you there--at least as far as the "TOS was never boring" part of your statement goes. A lot of Season 3 episodes were very boring to me; "The Mark of Gideon" is a downright snooze, as is "The Lights of Zetar." I don't dispute that most modern Trek is much more boring on average than TOS was at its worst, I just think credit for Modern Trek's successes-- rare they may be--should be given where it is due. Likewise, I think TOS's masterpieces were of such quality that it obviates the need to defend the duds.
Then you're not paying enough attention. It's more and more obvious as the season goes on.
"Alternative Factor" bad and boring.
And yes I'd rather see Lights of Zetar than BOBWpart 2 that is - Part 1 that's a different story
Jesus, shit like this is exactly why I stopped coming to this forum years ago. I can understand the hate for VOY, ENT, and perhaps TNG S1, but a lot of this sentiment just seems like irritating historical revisionism.
TNG S1&2 were the worst - and the last - seasons of Star Trek.
Bull! While S1 is admittedly weak, S2 is a far superior season.
And yes I'd rather see Lights of Zetar than BOBW
Jesus, shit like this is exactly why I stopped coming to this forum years ago. I can understand the hate for VOY, ENT, and perhaps TNG S1, but a lot of this sentiment just seems like irritating historical revisionism.
Come now, a man's entitled to his opinion. Besides, a lot of us TOS Trekkies have some room in our hearts for other Treks, too--I'm partial to DS9.
Alternative Factor was neither. It's a fun if psychotic high-concept episode. Yes, I'm aware I'm one of the handful of people inhabiting the planet who like it, but there you have it.
And I'll take boring over wretchedly unwatchable; "The Way to Eden" falls into this category. What TOS wasn't, though, was bland. Even when it was dull it was a little weird.
To what?
Yeah, I like TOS, TNG and DS9 fairly equally, although if you made me pick one I'd probably pick DS9 as my favorite. I just think if this were 10 or 15 years ago, there wouldn't be any of this disdain for all modern Trek. I'll grant that VOY and ENT did a lot of things wrong but that does nothing to tarnish the great stuff in TNG and DS9 (even though TNG admittedly took 3 seasons to really get going).And yes I'd rather see Lights of Zetar than BOBW
Jesus, shit like this is exactly why I stopped coming to this forum years ago. I can understand the hate for VOY, ENT, and perhaps TNG S1, but a lot of this sentiment just seems like irritating historical revisionism.
Come now, a man's entitled to his opinion. Besides, a lot of us TOS Trekkies have some room in our hearts for other Treks, too--I'm partial to DS9.
I agree with this to an extent. Some third season episodes were sorta weird in an intriguing way.
I echo your sentiments about modern ST. -- RR
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