How about doing "The Cage" with Kahn involved?

[Jayson]

If they do bring in Kahn for the next movie I think it would be fun if they in essence do a alternate episode for the next movie. Have Kirk andd Kahn trying to outwit each to gain control of the planet Talos and all it's advanced technology. It would be a chance to not only have a good villian but you could really explore a alien world as well. Plus the planet might be filled with all sorts of creatures and wierd aliens that the talosians had abducted and were left behind. ALso it would be nice to have a movie that doesn't turn the cliche of putting earth in danger, yet again.

Jason

 

[miraclefan]

*Channeling comic book guy* Worst Idea EVER!

 

[milo bloom]

My idea would be to lift from the TNG novel Vendetta and have Khan find the Doomsday machine and go nuts with it.

 

[CoveTom]

My idea would be for them to write a flippin' original story and not redo one, two, or forty-seven previously done Trek stories, no matter how good the originals were or how awesome folks think a remake could be. You've rebooted the universe. Now do something worthy of a reboot with it!

 

[Sub-Odeon]

Frankly I think the next film should focus on the aftermath of the destruction of Vulcan, and how the Klingons react to having 50+ ships wiped out by Nero the Romulan. Surely the Empire won't take that laying down. They could launch war on the Romulans and the UFP both.

Khan is still floating in stasis aboard Botany Bay. As a villain for Chris Pine's Kirk, I don't think he works anymore.

 

[Borgminister]

Perhaps a story about the Guardian of Forever and how you can't go back again, so to speak. With a Mirror Universe consequence that needs undoing.

I won't quit my day job, don't worry.

Seriously, though, no stealing from the old series--unless it is peripherally, like Harry Mudd. Even that might be too much. The brain trust needs to spread its wings and fly unassisted now...

 

[JustKate]

No Khan. Ever. He's been the villain twice already. Twice. I thought this new Trek was supposed to be all fresh and stuff. Khan as a villain yet again - again! - wouldn't be fresh. It would be decomposed.

 

[miraclefan]

My idea would be for them to write a flippin' original story and not redo one, two, or forty-seven previously done Trek stories, no matter how good the originals were or how awesome folks think a remake could be. You've rebooted the universe. Now do something worthy of a reboot with it!

Frankly I think the next film should focus on the aftermath of the destruction of Vulcan, and how the Klingons react to having 50+ ships wiped out by Nero the Romulan. Surely the Empire won't take that laying down. They could launch war on the Romulans and the UFP both.

Khan is still floating in stasis aboard Botany Bay. As a villain for Chris Pine's Kirk, I don't think he works anymore.

DING*DING*DING We have some winners!

 

[Squiggy]

If they do bring in Kahn for the next movie I think it would be fun if they in essence do a alternate episode for the next movie. Have Kirk andd Kahn trying to outwit each to gain control of the planet Talos and all it's advanced technology. It would be a chance to not only have a good villian but you could really explore a alien world as well. Plus the planet might be filled with all sorts of creatures and wierd aliens that the talosians had abducted and were left behind. ALso it would be nice to have a movie that doesn't turn the cliche of putting earth in danger, yet again.

Jason

I liked your idea better the first time...when it was called SPACE SEED.

 

[Jayson]

I don't mind them addressing the Vulcan situation but I would really like to see a unique and alien world. That is why I am fascinated by Talos. To me it offers everything. Wierd and exotic aliens and we could see a truly alien looking city. Plus the ability to effect your mind with illusion is a intresting idea. I also think the Talosians would be a intresting race to reimage. They have a truly alien and creppy vibe to them that would work well within the nature of a feature film. Kahn would represent the more human type of villian. It would sort of be a movie about evoultion. You have normal humans and advanced humans and these aliens that are more advanced than both sides of the conflict.

Jason

 

[fresh]

No Khan. Ever. He's been the villain twice already. Twice. I thought this new Trek was supposed to be all fresh and stuff. Khan as a villain yet again - again! - wouldn't be fresh. It would be decomposed.

It would be fresh to the legions of new Star Trek fans that don't care about TOS.
Which probably make up about 70% of people who will go see the new Trek movie.

 

[Mr. B]

How about no? It's amazing that the same board with the if-you-didn't-like-Vulcan-imploding-you-hate-change mentality can produce all this garbage about rehashing past movie plots and villains. What's the point of the Abramsverse where "anything can happen" if were just going to shoehorn old story lines into JJ's vision?

 

[Jayson]

If they do bring in Kahn for the next movie I think it would be fun if they in essence do a alternate episode for the next movie. Have Kirk andd Kahn trying to outwit each to gain control of the planet Talos and all it's advanced technology. It would be a chance to not only have a good villian but you could really explore a alien world as well. Plus the planet might be filled with all sorts of creatures and wierd aliens that the talosians had abducted and were left behind. ALso it would be nice to have a movie that doesn't turn the cliche of putting earth in danger, yet again.

Jason

I liked your idea better the first time...when it was called SPACE SEED.

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "Solyaris". A Star Trekian version of it anyways that is more action-oriented. Talos would represent tha dangerous planet bellow. Talos is a planet that can be both mysterious and scary if done right.

Jason

 

[JustKate]

It would be fresh to the legions of new Star Trek fans that don't care about TOS.
Which probably make up about 70% of people who will go see the new Trek movie.

I don't mean to offend you, Fresh, I really don't. But I don't care who knows about TOS or who doesn't.

The plain fact is that whoever makes the movie would know. And that means that the plot would be OLD. Ancient, in fact - that episode ran in 1966. The fact that some members of the potential audience wouldn't know it for that doesn't change the fact that that's what it would be. For goodness' sake, if we want to be all fresh and original, let's be fresh and original.

There's a whole galaxy out there. Are you telling me that these bright young writers can't come up with a more original villain than one who was created in 1966 (or maybe even 1965, depending on when the script was written)? Please.

For the record, I was alive and watching Trek in 1966, and I'm telling you, it was a looooooong time ago.

 

[M'Sharak]

My idea would be for them to write a flippin' original story and not redo one, two, or forty-seven previously done Trek stories, no matter how good the originals were or how awesome folks think a remake could be. You've rebooted the universe. Now do something worthy of a reboot with it!

This.

No Khan. Ever. He's been the villain twice already. Twice. I thought this new Trek was supposed to be all fresh and stuff. Khan as a villain yet again - again! - wouldn't be fresh. It would be decomposed.

And this.

I'd really prefer that they do new stuff, rather than looking over their shoulders back at old stuff to do again. Frankly, I'm not convinced that TWoK did the character of Khan any favors -- it made him more cartoonish, imnsho -- and I am particularly uninterested in seeing Khan yet again.

 

[CoveTom]

It would be fresh to the legions of new Star Trek fans that don't care about TOS.
Which probably make up about 70% of people who will go see the new Trek movie.

Three points in response:

1. That 30% of the audience is not insignificant. Even with the push to appeal to a mainstream audience, the Trek fanbase is still financially important. Suppose this current movie makes $200 million domestically. By your numbers, $60 million of that comes from the Trek fanbase. I'm not saying that you have to cater to them, nor am I saying they wouldn't all show up. But no reason to do something that will be 'been there, done that' to that big a chunk of your audience.

2. I think you underestimate the percentage of moviegoers who are familiar with Khan. You don't have to care about TOS or Trek in order to be familiar with Khan. Khan is a legendary movie villain. Lots of people, including lots of young people, have seen Wrath of Khan even if they've never seen much other Trek. And even among those who haven't seen the film, a great deal of people are at least familiar with the fact that there is a villain named Khan who was in one of those Star Trek films. Doing a Khan story could make this feel like a retread for alot of people who are not big Trek fans too.

3. Why, for goodness sake, do a Khan story anyway? Yes, he was a good villain. So what? Is this new team of 'fresh blood' so creatively bankrupt that after one single film they have to go back to a character from a previous film to tell a good story? This is a rebooted universe and a blank canvas. They've told the backstory. Everything's ready to go. Let's do some original ideas in this new universe before we revert back to the old, please.

 

[Jayson]

How about no? It's amazing that the same board with the if-you-didn't-like-Vulcan-imploding-you-hate-change mentality can produce all this garbage about rehashing past movie plots and villains. What's the point of the Abramsverse where "anything can happen" if were just going to shoehorn old story lines into JJ's vision?

Well I don't want them to tell the same story. Just use the elements to do a new type of story. Also I am all for bringing change. I want to see them kill off a beloved character and destroy the ship if you want. Heck have The Enterprise crew go rogue and stay rogue at the end. Don't have Starfleet acept them back in with a slap on the wrist. Next movie they can all be criminals on the run from the law in essence.

Jason

 

[Jayson]

It would be fresh to the legions of new Star Trek fans that don't care about TOS.
Which probably make up about 70% of people who will go see the new Trek movie.

I don't mean to offend you, Fresh, I really don't. But I don't care who knows about TOS or who doesn't.

The plain fact is that whoever makes the movie would know. And that means that the plot would be OLD. Ancient, in fact - that episode ran in 1966. The fact that some members of the potential audience wouldn't know it for that doesn't change the fact that that's what it would be. For goodness' sake, if we want to be all fresh and original, let's be fresh and original.

There's a whole galaxy out there. Are you telling me that these bright young writers can't come up with a more original villain than one who was created in 1966 (or maybe even 1965, depending on when the script was written)? Please.

For the record, I was alive and watching Trek in 1966, and I'm telling you, it was a looooooong time ago.

People know who the Romulans and Vulcans were, yet they were included in the movie. Just because you have Khan in the movie it isn't like it would be the same Khan we are familiar with. Different motivations and being played by a different actor would in essence make him a new character in the same way the AbramsTOS characters are not exactly the same as they versions we saw on tv. There similar but hopefully they will go down different paths than we expect so they remain unpredicatble. Take away "Space Seed" and "Wrath of Khan" then he becomes a unpredicable villians as well.

Jason

 

[JustKate]

^ I'm sorry - really I am, I'm not just saying that to be polite - but it sounds so dull to me. How different can it be if it involves the same general idea: A man who believes himself and his followers are destined to create a new super race of human beings. It's bound to be derivative. Even if you ignore Khan...well, it's been done other times, too - other shows, other movies. It's been done.

 

[Dale]

My idea would be for them to write a flippin' original story and not redo one, two, or forty-seven previously done Trek stories, no matter how good the originals were or how awesome folks think a remake could be. You've rebooted the universe. Now do something worthy of a reboot with it!

This. To the nth degree.