How about a new Kirk rumor to keep us busy - Mike Vogel
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Interesting choice. He certainly does look the part more than most fan choices seem to. I could see this happening, especially as he is working on 'Cloverfield'. I don't know what he is like as an actor, but IMO Abrams has never really cast an appalling actor IMO.
Looks little a little punk.
He's not a horrible choice, but I'll cross my fingers and wait for the next guy.
He's not a horrible choice, but I'll cross my fingers and wait for the next guy.
5'8" - that's on the short side, especially if he's next to Zachary Quinto who's well over six foot but maybe they can put lifts in his shoes.
I think he looks aweful.
Looks about right. Let's just see if this rumor leads anywhere.
I dunno, the more I look at him, the less I buy him as Kirk. Sure, Hunter and Shatner were pretty but they were also tough, virile. This guy looks like just another MTV reality show cutie pie, vapid and vacuous and way too metrosexual. (Go ahead, call me retrograde, sexist, what have you, but it's as if someone were to cast a generic starlet as a young Janeway--whatever problems I had with VOY, buying Kate Mulgrew as a cptain was never one of them, though she did lapse into a funny Prymat voice in the early episodes).
But I could be wrong--so far, though, no one's had a thing to say about this guy as an actor.
But I could be wrong--so far, though, no one's had a thing to say about this guy as an actor.
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
They might be able to handle the metrosexual problem with costuming, makeup, hair and having him hit the gym...and of course, acting...has this guy been in nothing memorable that could give us a hint? Maybe the most challenging acting he's ever done is his Kirk audition? Apparently he's impressed someone.
Welcome to 2007.
And there was really nothing "tough" about Hunter's looks or personna, which is why in his most notable roles (Christ, John Wayne's nephew in "The Searchers") he was cast as either extraordinarily pure or naive.
Not every actor in 2007 has that fey, over-gelled quality. It's one thing to reflexively reject all change, quite another to point out that an actor lacks the proper mien for a role. (Quite another still to address all misgivings as an inability to get with the times. Just sayin'.)
You might be right about Hunter. If so, he pulled a pretty good 180 as Pike. Of course, the 1960s idea of soft--coming on the heels of WWII and Korea--and the 2007 idea--coming on the heels of the Cola Wars and American Idol--are two very different things. Anyway you slice it, a light weight is a light weight.
Oh well.
Hitting the gym won't help--the average metrosexual is in much better shape than the hunks of yesteryear; show muscles are the name of the game these days. Take a look at Connery as Bond--his physique would be laughed off the screen today.
Wiping that kewpie doll pursed lip thing off his face wouldn't hurt.
There's nothing "proper" about it. The qualities that evidently disturb you about many young actors are also quite apparently in demand. They may well be looking for someone with a more contemporary appeal than older fans of TOS are expecting. There's nothing wrong with that. They want people to pay money to see this movie, after all.
Whatever Shatner may represent to people as a TV actor, he never did evince the kind of appeal necessary to make it in the movies in the 1950s and 1960s - he had his shots in supporting roles in a number of big films, but never got beyond playing the male ingenue.
Hunter didn't come across as tough or commanding in "The Cage." His character was capable of physical action but otherwise distracted, reticient, morose and given to sulking.
Most every criticism that's been leveled in this thread - from "little punk" to "fey, vacuous" and so forth are good fits for the guy who plays Superboy on "Smallville." He's not my idea of super-anything. I notice that he's awfully damned popular nonetheless, and a lot of folks apparently don't share my boredom with him. Hell, a lot of people seem to think for no good reason that he should play Superman in the movies.
I looked at the footage on YouTube and over at Trekmovie - Vogel's athletic, attractive and has a great deal of charisma and focus as a performer. Nor is he lacking in virile appeal. What he is, is young - he's a good deal younger than Shatner during TOS, which is appropriate given that Kirk is apparently younger than in TOS - and Shatner in his youth was quite a feminine-looking guy.
Anyway, this is a rumor - so cheer up. Kirk may well not be played by Vogel but by someone else that most TOS fans won't approve of either.
Doesn't look like a leader....maybe he can act like one.
I'll look at those YouTube clips. Remember, I'm not screaming my fool head off here, just expressing something less than the optimism you are. It's my nature to be skeptical of most things since most things tend to, you know, suck.
It occurs to me that my misgivings have less to do with this being 2007 and not 1967 rather than with my belief--which I've held, without realizing it, since my teens and my favorite shows were Hill Street Blues, The Equalizer and TOS (not so proud of The Equalizer...)--that most actors don't become interesting until they hit their thirties at least. I'm not all that interested in Young Kirk as a concept--that has less to do with being a die-hard TOS fan than just appreciating seasoned actors with some life behind experience behind them.
Your mileage does vary--when doesn't it?
It occurs to me that my misgivings have less to do with this being 2007 and not 1967 rather than with my belief--which I've held, without realizing it, since my teens and my favorite shows were Hill Street Blues, The Equalizer and TOS (not so proud of The Equalizer...)--that most actors don't become interesting until they hit their thirties at least. I'm not all that interested in Young Kirk as a concept--that has less to do with being a die-hard TOS fan than just appreciating seasoned actors with some life behind experience behind them.
Your mileage does vary--when doesn't it?
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It works. Top pic has me believing it a bit more than the first but, still, it works.
I get a big kick of my being the same age as Captain Kirk.
I get a big kick of my being the same age as Captain Kirk.