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House, MD 4x16 "Wilson's Heart" - Discussion and Spoilers

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Only he goes home and watches cartoons while eating cereal whereas his boss goes home, drinks smoke scotch, downs some viccodin and watches "The L Word" with the sound off.
In his defense, we don't know it was cartoons he was watching. :D
 
Dr. Gregory House: Nepherologist and Infectous Diseases - Head of Diagnostic Medicine
Dr. Lisa Cuddy: Endochronology - Dean of Medicine

That would be "Nephrologist" in House's case, making him a kidney specialist.

And "Endochronology?" What's that, the study of clockworks? ;) I think you mean "Endocrinology." (Maybe you were thinking of dendrochronology, the science of determining the age of trees.)

Meanwhile, we got to see Amber's full name on her hospital bracelet. I think it said "Volakis, Amber." Something Greek, anyway.

Amber Volakis' name has never been a secret. It was revealed when she first appeared on the show.
 
But to be honest, I don't think it was quite that prominent.

Hey, wait a second, didn't we not know her name when she first appeared on the show? I thought she only became Amber when she started dating Wilson.
 
Has anyone thought that Wilson might be able to forgive because House nearly sacrificed his life simply to get at what was going on with Amber?
 
Has anyone thought that Wilson might be able to forgive because House nearly sacrificed his life simply to get at what was going on with Amber?

I think a lot of people are reading a lot into House's fears about Wilson not forgiving him. At the end when Wilson visits House in the hospital room it seemed to me Wilson gave him an "everything is fine" kind of nod/gesture.
 
^ Really? I didn't get that feeling. To me it seemed like House really wanted Wilson to come in, but Wilson just couldn't. He might logically know that the whole thing isn't really House's fault, but subconsciously he might blame him for a while.
 
^ Really? I didn't get that feeling. To me it seemed like House really wanted Wilson to come in, but Wilson just couldn't. He might logically know that the whole thing isn't really House's fault, but subconsciously he might blame him for a while.

Well, Wilson had a hard day and probably wanted to go take it in rather than dealing with House. But there seemed to be a "moment" there that seemed to say things were OK. Otherwise, why would he even visit?

On a similar note. During the first season's "christmas" episode in a musical montage we see House and Wilson sitting there, sharing take-out, and laughing. Wish we could see more moments like these between the two. Get a "real" feel for their friendship.
 
I didn't see it as an "Everything's fine" gesture. I saw it as an "I just don't know" gesture. Wilson was there, that counts for something, but he couldn't yet bring himself to come closer, to be a friend again. Which could be because he can't forgive House yet, or just because House is too great a reminder right now of what he's lost.
 
I didn't see it as an "Everything's fine" gesture. I saw it as an "I just don't know" gesture. Wilson was there, that counts for something, but he couldn't yet bring himself to come closer, to be a friend again. Which could be because he can't forgive House yet, or just because House is too great a reminder right now of what he's lost.
That's how I read it as well. As I said earlier in the thread, I don't expect Wilson to "hate" House for a long time next season. Just long enough for him to figure things out and find a way to forward on.
 
I didn't see it as an "Everything's fine" gesture. I saw it as an "I just don't know" gesture. Wilson was there, that counts for something, but he couldn't yet bring himself to come closer, to be a friend again. Which could be because he can't forgive House yet, or just because House is too great a reminder right now of what he's lost.
This is how i also saw it.
 
I honestly think that this will have a much stronger long term effect on House. Wilson is angry, and rightfully so, at House right now. However, after he's had some time to work past his emotions and look at the situation logically he will no doubt be able to forgive Him... But will house be able to forgive himself. His antics caused the death of his best friends Girlfriend... Perhaps this is the incident to drive house to get some "real help"?
 
I honestly think that this will have a much stronger long term effect on House. Wilson is angry, and rightfully so, at House right now. However, after he's had some time to work past his emotions and look at the situation logically he will no doubt be able to forgive Him... But will house be able to forgive himself. His antics caused the death of his best friends Girlfriend... Perhaps this is the incident to drive house to get some "real help"?

I don't see how Wilson is "rightfuly" made at House. He is in a "he's upset and looking for answers" kind of way. But not in any logical, outsider's, way. House did nothing wrong. He was drunk, called Wilson to pick him up, Amber did it instead, they got on a bus, and the bus had an accident. Nothing House, himself, did was wrong. Infact he put him self at great, dangerous, and risky for his own health lengths to SAVE Amber.

I agree, though, that any "anger" Wilson may have directed at House won't last long next season. If for no reason other than House not being the most serialized show but because the House/Wilson friendship is not only important to the story-telling dynamic in the seires but also each is important to the other their personal lives.

I'm more wondering how they'll handle 13. If they'll have her Huntingtons test be a false-positive or if they'll have House discover/come-up with a [fictional] cure/treatment for it.
 
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I'm more wondering how they'll handle 13. If they'll have her Hutchingtons test be a false-positive or if they'll have House discover/come-up with a [fictional] cure/treatment for it.

Neither. The only thing the test determined is that she has inherited the gene for Huntingdon's. She's asymptomatic, and it could be years or decades before she manifests any symptoms, after which she'd typically have another 15-20 years of life. There's no reason to contrive any kind of quick fix for the condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington's_disease
 
I honestly think that this will have a much stronger long term effect on House. Wilson is angry, and rightfully so, at House right now. However, after he's had some time to work past his emotions and look at the situation logically he will no doubt be able to forgive Him... quote]

Wilson could also see this as another instance of how the way that House chooses to live his life affects Wilson's life. House overindulges in alcohol, porn, Vicodin, etc as ways to deal with the pain in his life. This has caused big problems for Wilson in many ways but losing Amber is the worst consequence of being House's friend. He might decide that it's just too painful being House's friend. Amber was working on making Wilson a stronger personality, so this (Wilson ending friendship with House) might be her legacy.
 
Finally got the time to watch both episodes. I waited until I could watch both of them back-to-back ... and wow!

Heart-rending, full of impact, rife with poignancy these two episodes nailed things on the emotional scale. Although some of it was a bit predictable (Amber being involved was not hard to see), it led me along nicely and I followed eagerly.

House's self-doubt has rarely seemed more palpable than here, when 13 contends that he's screwing things up worse than she is. The idea that none of them should be involved is brought out a few times (13 and later by Foreman), but it's never overplayed.

Kudos to the writers for not letting House himself completely off the hook. "Amber" in his vision at the end tells him "you kinda deserve it". Wilson's massive internal struggle in that final scene, looking at House and perhaps wondering.... "why are you still alive and she's the one who's dead?" Of course, even House himself seems to agree.
 
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