And, according to Roddenberry's TMP's novelization, that bonus scene (in TMP's "special longer version" edition) shows that female Deltan pheromones caused unexpected happenings below console level.
hopefully some gayness/lesbianess
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And, according to Roddenberry's TMP's novelization, that bonus scene (in TMP's "special longer version" edition) shows that female Deltan pheromones caused unexpected happenings below console level.
Personally it bugs the hell out of me nearly every time we see gay people in cinema and television. Seldom is there any good reason, it's just stylish and politically correct.
NiteTrek sort of had a point in his troll bait post. To be frank, homosexual tendencies probably could be reversed ("cured") in the Trek future, be it drugs, gene therapy, whatever... might even be one of those alterations parents to be would make on their unborn children.
NiteTrek sort of had a point in his troll bait post. To be frank, homosexual tendencies probably could be reversed ("cured") in the Trek future, be it drugs, gene therapy, whatever... might even be one of those alterations parents to be would make on their unborn children.
Personally I'm taken aback by some of the comments of fellow Star Trek fans. I can't believe some of them are so backwards thinking.
Actually it makes me sad and angry.
You should have seen the three/four gay marriage threads at their height, so many bigoted messages, as much as I don't personally like this film, I hope it encourages a better message about tolerance.
I'd prefer to genetically remove closed-mindedness and bigotry from my unborn children, especially since it is clearly too late for so many that are already here.
Yeah, I actually remember one of those discussions. 'Twas just as scary.
Sam, I love you. I really do.
Oh, maybe you should see this.
I say, let's do away with whiteness first. Whitey's had a good run.
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Good thing though that the Federation made genetic alterations of any kind illegal.
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Personally I'm taken aback by some of the comments of fellow Star Trek fans. I can't believe some of them are so backwards thinking.
Actually it makes me sad and angry.
That is why I'm taking a break from TNZ at the moment.
Oh, maybe you should see this.
Another new 'fan'. (And an 'ensign', no less)
Comes with the territory.
Personally I'm taken aback by some of the comments of fellow Star Trek fans. I can't believe some of them are so backwards thinking.
Actually it makes me sad and angry.
I'm so with you. To think that fans of Star Trek, who should know better, treat a minority that is perfectly natural like victims of a disease fills me with disgust. I'm glad I live in a country where people of opposite sex have been able to marry for 7 years now.
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I really don't care if we see homosexuality in trek or not. I don't watch or enjoy Star Trek due to how sexuality is represented.
I think it's actually more refreshing that there haven't been whole episodes about homosexuality. Maybe by the 23rd or 24th century people will get past their differences to the point that if character x is gay or not it isn't used as a plot point.
I think it's actually more refreshing that there haven't been whole episodes about homosexuality. Maybe by the 23rd or 24th century people will get past their differences to the point that if character x is gay or not it isn't used as a plot point.
Unfortunately we're living in the 21st century. Star Trek is produced now and not in the future. Heterosexual interpersonal relationships have been plot points many many times.
That's why I don't want to see it now. I don't think they could do it well. I'd rather they ignore it instead of making it in a way that it feels awkward.
If there is a gay character in trek I'd want it handled with dignity and treated like it's no big deal. Hollywood t.v. and movie writers don't seem capable of doing that right now.
If there is a gay character in trek I'd want it handled with dignity and treated like it's no big deal. Hollywood t.v. and movie writers don't seem capable of doing that right now.
The Filipino half of me says, "Hell ya!" But the White half of me says, "Oh, no!" Damn me and being born of two worlds....
Personally I'm taken aback by some of the comments of fellow Star Trek fans. I can't believe some of them are so backwards thinking.
Actually it makes me sad and angry.
I have no reason to discriminate against homosexuals, or any other ethnic or social group. I just don't agree with this "we better include X or other X'ers will get pissed" practice for television or movies. I also don't think the media needs to constantly treat special interest groups like Faberge eggs. Political correctness has its place, but it also needs to have limits. It is possible to practice tolerance and diversity without "setting an example".
I don't know how you'd fit one in to an "epic space adventure". I mean saving the Federation from an evil Romulan warlord and Ensign Bruce wrestles with his feelings seems like a stretch.
I think they did it perfectly in a show called Six Feet Under. Though there're probably more shows which did that.
One would be surprised how many LGBT fans of Star Trek there are. And then there's the nerd stigma attached to Trek to begin with; in gay neighborhoods, if you're in the closet, it's more likely because of being a Trek fan than sexuality. Interesting, no?
Then again, one of the most successful gay stores in Chicago has an ample and fluid supply of Star Trek merchandise. It's one of the anchors for the store. Yay Trek toys!
For the movie, if I see one same-sex couple in the background holding hands in, say, the lounge area of the Enterprise, then I'll be happy. They're not really part of the story, they're just setting up the atmosphere.
Then again, one of the most successful gay stores in Chicago has an ample and fluid supply of Star Trek merchandise. It's one of the anchors for the store. Yay Trek toys!
For the movie, if I see one same-sex couple in the background holding hands in, say, the lounge area of the Enterprise, then I'll be happy. They're not really part of the story, they're just setting up the atmosphere.
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