Honest, idealistic people

[TerokNor]

Are there still honest people in the world?
Just wonder... I mean a bit "play- acting" I suppose is normal, like that you have to be polite now and then, even when you don´t want to.
But there are so many who send out always so extremly different signs in each word, each move, each mimic expression, where I have no idea, if they are true or false.

So it just came to my mind to ask, how honest/ how true are you?

I belong to the pure kind, honest, very fair, believing in the good in people and not exspecting them to act evil.
Though with this attitute it seems I always end up last. Do I have to false myself to survive in this world? Do I have to betray and fake?
I have lost already a lot blue-eyed idealism in the last 10 years, though I don´t want to give up on the rest.
Does anyone else feel that way?

TerokNor

 

[Amaris]

I am honest, but I have told lies in the past (mostly for personal safety reasons). When dealing with other people, though, I do my best to be completely honest and open about my intentions. I don't play games with people, I don't try to trick them into doing or saying something for my benefit. I am pragmatic enough to know that not everyone shares that optimism, and am more reserved when I know someone is lying or attempting to circumvent my sense of reason in an effort to sell or convince me of something I know to be wrong.

 

[bigdaddy]

I'm the most honest person you will ever meet...

It's why most people hate me.

I have played games with dates and "friends" and I can't stand most of my family and I'm no longer "It's a holiday behave" person, fuck that. I think you are being a fool, or just using me or being an asshole or lying to my face I will tell you and be done with you. I don't care if it's a friend, stranger, family or at a wedding or funeral, I say it how I see it and sadly I'm rarely wrong.

 

[Deckerd]

There are different types of honesty. I'm honest in that I will always hand in possessions/money I find. I do lie when it's necessary though. If a depressed friend says "I'm sorry I must be the worst company right now", I'm not going to say "You're right, I'm off to the pub".

 

[RoJoHen]

If a depressed friend says "I'm sorry I must be the worst company right now", I'm not going to say "You're right, I'm off to the pub".

I would respond with, "Yeah, you are, but it's okay. Let's go to the pub!"

 

[Avon]

i'm a compulsive liar. honest.

 

[TerokNor]

Well... with honest I mean more... more.. I don´t know how to express it... not hurting everyone by hitting them always in all situations right in the face...
Maybe decent is what I mean? Or maybe its both.
Like... I say my opinion honestly, but nontheless choose words carefully to not hurt the others feelings (if possible, of course its not always possible, honesty sometimes can hurt, but also help), but then there are so many people who nod and smile and then..take advantage of you.

Or also people that always seem nice and friendly and professional... speaking about taking people serious and value them (and seem truly believing in this)...but then...when they get an honest opinion they do not like, they suddenly chance and behave the opposite.

TerokNor

 

[Amaris]

Well... with honest I mean more... more.. I don´t know how to express it... not hurting everyone by hitting them always in all situations right in the face...
Maybe decent is what I mean? Or maybe its both.
Like... I say my opinion honestly, but nontheless choose words carefully to not hurt the others feelings (if possible, of course its not always possible, honesty sometimes can hurt, but also help), but then there are so many people who nod and smile and then..take advantage of you.

Or also people that always seem nice and friendly and professional... speaking about taking people serious and value them (and seem truly believing in this)...but then...when they get an honest opinion they do not like, they suddenly chance and behave the opposite.

TerokNor

Oh, whether someone is the genuine article. Whether they're helping you because they're interested in actually helping you achieve your goals, whether it be personal, financial, what have you. Yes, there are still people like that. I'm like that. If I tell you that I'm interested in finding you the best deal or the greatest way to achieve your goal, I mean it, and I share in the hope of that goal being achieved.

 

[auntiehill]

I think you're also forgetting that people are rarely just one thing. We are creatures of contrast; people have many different sides, many different aspects to their personalities. We are both good and bad, sometimes even simultaneously.

If you've seen parts A through W of someone, and you think that they are honest, ethical and loyal, etc. But you haven't seen every single part of who they are. When parts XYZ come out under, for instance, a time of great stress, you might be horrified or shocked at their behavior and think that you were completely misled. Actually, you weren't. There are just small parts of them that come out during certain times, part of their personality forged during childhood perhaps--maybe deeply rooted anger or fear--that comes out and causes people to act in a not-so-inspiring way.

The question is, if someone is good 90% of the time, can you put up with the 10% that's an asshole? Everyone has done something, said something, or even thought something that is not nice, kind, "good"--whatever you want to call it. That doesn't make us all "evil." No human is perfect. The best you can hope for is "mostly OK."

It's like that scene in Princess Bride. Wesley wasn't dead; he was "mostly dead." No one is all GOOD. They are "mostly good." Hell, even Mother Theresa did things that many people thought were wrong, and even Adolf Hitler was said to be very concerned about the care and humane treatment of animals. Go figure.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

If it weren't for honest, idealistic people I'd have to work for a living. Marks.

 

[Jadzia]

People that always seem nice and friendly and professional... speaking about taking people serious and value them (and seem truly believing in this)...but then...when they get an honest opinion they do not like, they suddenly chance and behave the opposite.

That's not necessarily a question of honesty.

Many people act on their feelings more than they act on their thoughts. Feelings can be changeable things depending on mood and situation and on how a conversation comes about.

If you observe some inconsistencies where people are expressing their opinions/likes/dislikes, it may not be dishonesty, but contrasting opinions given in contrasting moods and contexts.

 

[TerokNor]

Yes, true. We are colourful creatures for sure with many different sides. Forgot that momentarily in my shock and hurt to have been on the receiving end of one of the less nice sides of someone I had never seen that side in before. Thanks for reminding me.

TerokNor

 

[infinix]

I'm the most honest person you will ever meet...

It's why most people hate me.

I have played games with dates and "friends" and I can't stand most of my family and I'm no longer "It's a holiday behave" person, fuck that. I think you are being a fool, or just using me or being an asshole or lying to my face I will tell you and be done with you. I don't care if it's a friend, stranger, family or at a wedding or funeral, I say it how I see it and sadly I'm rarely wrong.

I'm curious. What do you do for a living? Its hard for me to see how someone who is so brutally honest will fit into a work place.

 

[LitmusDragon]

"All the worlds a stage, and the people, merely players."

I tend to think that everyone is at least a little fake. Or at least that's what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.

As a customer service agent I am a professional faker. It comes extremely naturally to me in conversation to say what the person expect to hear instead of what I actually mean. I don't seem to have this problem in the written word however and so I try to use that whenever possible.

I think I learned at an early age that capitulation was the best approach to take with my parents and so it's my default position in any verbal conversation now. I've been trying to pick my battles and be more earnest with people especially about what I want but it's hard to unlearn years of habit. This is fundamentally why I don't date. It's easier not to ask, and so I don't.

 

[Kestra]

Of course there are honest people in the world. I'm just not one of them.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I hunt them for a living.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Everything I say is a lie.

 

[iguana_tonante]

(head explodes)

 

[propita]

I tend to be honest. I’m told I used to be “blunt” in that I was oblivious to others and waaaay too honest, but unlikely that I was Asperger’s--just oblivious and unsuspecting.

I go back and forth as to whether people are good or evil--surprised when they’re good but surprised when they’re evil. Makes no sense to me why I’m surprised. But I have met people who are good, really good. It wouldn’t occur to them to lie. They seem sweet and a bit naive, and I feel very protective of them. I’m told I have been one of them, on occasion (part of the obliviousness, I presume).

 

[JarodRussell]

I'm the most honest person you will ever meet...

It's why most people hate me.

I have played games with dates and "friends" and I can't stand most of my family and I'm no longer "It's a holiday behave" person, fuck that. I think you are being a fool, or just using me or being an asshole or lying to my face I will tell you and be done with you. I don't care if it's a friend, stranger, family or at a wedding or funeral, I say it how I see it and sadly I'm rarely wrong.

Well, being honest isn't the same as being good or nice.

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