Hold on a second... (Star Wars XI spoilers)

[SellusGravius]

Ok, i could be wrong here, so forgive me if i am. But old Spock says that he was going to help the Romulans save their planet etc but he failed and thats why they got sent back in time right...

Ok, so in The Next Generation, which is however long AFTER the events of TOS and the TOS movies, how come there is a planet Romulus?

Unless of course the whole Romulus being destroyed thing happened AFTER the TNG stuff... But i did not know Spock could live that long.

My knowledge on Star Trek is pretty limited so again i could be wrong, i'm just a little confused and wondering if anyone would be able to explain this to me.

 

[Claudia]

Nero and Spock going back in time created an alternate universe, so essentially none of the events depicted in the various TV-series (save for Enterprise) and movies happened there.

Romulus was destroyed in 2387, about 17 years after the end of TNG, Spock still being alive is consistent with what has been established about Vulcan lifespans.

(And BTW, it's Star *Trek* 11, not Star Wars. *g*)

 

[SellusGravius]

Omg please let me delete this topic >.< I can't believe i typed star wars... I was in a hurry... So sorry

Anyway, thanks for the reply. That's what i wanted to know, if Spock was still alive after TNG.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Since your question's been answered, I'll just lock this.

FYI, there is a forum devoted specifically to discussion of the new movie, and any threads about it should be posted there.

 

[Christopher]

Unless of course the whole Romulus being destroyed thing happened AFTER the TNG stuff... But i did not know Spock could live that long.

Vulcan life expectancy is typically around 250, according to behind-the-scenes sources from the era of the original series. Canonically, we know that Sarek was about 200 when he appeared in TNG, and he died early due to a rare illness. Spock would be roughly 155 or so at the time of Romulus's destruction in 2387.

 

[QuasarVM]

Unless of course the whole Romulus being destroyed thing happened AFTER the TNG stuff... But i did not know Spock could live that long.

Vulcan life expectancy is typically around 250, according to behind-the-scenes sources from the era of the original series. Canonically, we know that Sarek was about 200 when he appeared in TNG, and he died early due to a rare illness. Spock would be roughly 155 or so at the time of Romulus's destruction in 2387.

What I want to know is -- why didn't Sarek simply transfer his Katra into a host and continue on as Sarek in another body?

Why should any Vulcan die when they have ample warning they are going to? They can just do a Katra transfer and keep on going...

Here's another question: Was the control complex on Sigma Draconis VII (Spock's Brain) Katra powered?

Edited: It has a fuel efficiency of 10,000 years per katra!

Seems pretty fuel efficient to me!

 

[cardinal biggles]

Damn... I knew I forgot to do something.

 

[QuasarVM]

Damn... I knew I forgot to do something.

 

[Christopher]

What I want to know is -- why didn't Sarek simply transfer his Katra into a host and continue on as Sarek in another body?

Because someone else would've been using that body already. Remember how having Spock's katra inside him almost drove McCoy insane? The only way the scenario you propose could work is if the person providing the "new" body had his or her personality completely erased/destroyed, and that would be murder.

True, ENT showed us that Surak's katra could be carried in various individuals for a fair amount of time, so maybe a properly prepared individual can survive sharing one's brain with another's katra. But it's not the same as the dead individual taking over someone's body. They're just in the background, an observer, able to exert some influence but not "living again." And I don't know if it's an arrangement that can last over the long term without causing psychological problems for the host.

Katra aren't meant to live on in new bodies. They're meant to be placed in The Hall of Ancient Thought, presumably in katric arks like the one that contained Surak's katra. The only reason it was feasible to put Spock's katra in his own regenerated body on a permanent basis is because that body had no personality of its own. "His mind's a void," as McCoy said. And probably because it was his brain to begin with, and therefore his consciousness fit into it more naturally and safely than it could into any other body. Even so, the Refusion process was extremely risky.

Here's another question: Was the control complex on Sigma Draconis VII (Spock's Brain) Katra powered?

Presumably it was powered by geothermal, nuclear, or some other energy source. It used Spock's physical brain (as the title and plot made clear) as its CPU rather than as a power source.