History of Trek uniforms
- Thread starter Ronald Held
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They left out the monster maroons.
That's so weird! I'm hoping it was just a mistake, because I double checked and they had literally EVERY other uniform style in there. I wonder why the longest running uniform in-universe was the only one they left out? Again, that's just weird!
Why are they called monster maroons? I was literally just wondering that when I found this thread.
ETA: Is that George Takei to the right in the still from The Cage? It looks like him but I thought he came on for the second pilot?
ETA: Is that George Takei to the right in the still from The Cage? It looks like him but I thought he came on for the second pilot?
That is "Where No Man Has Gone Before" when Sulu was the ship's physicist before becoming the helmsman (he's a man of many talents).
It's also missing the "All Good Things"/"The Visitor"/"Endgame" future uniforms as well.
Duh, that's what I get for posting without coffee. Crikey, he looks so young and handsome doesn't he?
My other question stands... why monster maroons? Do people find them monstrous?
Still don't get why their uniforms would change so insanely often in some eras (in-universe, I mean).
The devil makes work for idle hands. If you live in a Utopian post-scarcity society you have to give people something to do.
Well perhaps yes, but I said some eras. Those monster maroons were in circulation for a long time (80 years or so), and then we get decades during which they change at least twice.
Because it rhymes? Sometimes you don't need any other reason, not even in the military. See e.g. the Morotai Mutiny.
Timo Saloniemi
Even the monster maroons under went changes. At some point the turtlenecks and wool linings were axed. The pants stripes and belts went away as well. And I am pretty sure that Jack Crusher's version in TNG Family is made from a different material than Lt. Castillo's in TNG Yesterday's Enterprise.
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-4/4x02/family-hd-318.jpg
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x15/yesterdays_enterprise_hd_192.jpg
(Also, there only seems to be one chest badge in YE; first Garrett is wearing it and then Castillo when he takes command. This guy doesn't have one as well.)
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-4/4x02/family-hd-318.jpg
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x15/yesterdays_enterprise_hd_192.jpg
(Also, there only seems to be one chest badge in YE; first Garrett is wearing it and then Castillo when he takes command. This guy doesn't have one as well.)
Because it rhymes? Sometimes you don't need any other reason, not even in the military. See e.g. the Morotai Mutiny.
Timo Saloniemi
It is an example of alliteration. However 'monster' does not rhyme with 'maroon'. Unless you pronounce those words weirdly?
You should see how often the US Army and the US Navy have changed THEIR uniforms.
Being no US citizen, I have no idea, but probably more than you think would be reasonable. But did they burn through 3 sets of them within a decade?
In the early 1970s, CNO Zumwalt killed off the enlisted "Crackerjacks" uniform* in favor of a version of the Officer/CPO coat-and-tie. "One Navy, One Uniform" was the sales pitch. By the time I entered service in 1980, those uniform changes were being reverted. So six years or so for CJs to no-CJs to CJs again.
*(and dungarees, but that is a bit more complicated.)
Depends on the command authority.
Depending on the decade, yes.
https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/heritage/uniforms-and-personal-equipment.html
It does change a lot. Though the common sailor probably wore the same thing with minor variants, if that.
And no 29th Century uniforms shows either.
