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Spoilers His Dark Materials TV series

^ Almost certainly one season per book, though I imagine (based on the one-second clip of Asriel's speech from the preview) the first season will introduce certain trilogy elements and characters earlier not featured in Northern Lights. And the series seems to be named His Dark Materials, plain and simple.
 
^ Almost certainly one season per book, though I imagine (based on the one-second clip of Asriel's speech from the preview) the first season will introduce certain trilogy elements and characters earlier not featured in Northern Lights. And the series seems to be named His Dark Materials, plain and simple.
I was just being snarky about the book titles, but I imagine that we will see individual episode titles named after the books, so there is room for both The Golden Compass and Norther Lights in that sense.

At some point now, I'm going to have to go back and read the books again before the series starts.
 
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Yeah...I still have no clue what this is about.

I don't know what it is about this IP, because I watched the movie, read most of the first book (I think?) and just checked out that trailer, and yet for some reason I just can't get a foothold on this thing. Is it just me, or does anyone else struggle to get what this is all about?
 
I'm a huge fan of the books, and I loved that trailer. It looks like they're doing it right this time.
 
I don't know what it is about this IP, because I watched the movie, read most of the first book (I think?) and just checked out that trailer, and yet for some reason I just can't get a foothold on this thing. Is it just me, or does anyone else struggle to get what this is all about?
The first book is about a girl named Lyra whose best friend is abducted (along with lots of other poor children), and, when she discovers that her mother is one of the operation's ringleaders, joins an effort to rescue him/them. It's a fairly straightforward tale, albeit with a memorable detour into a political fight amongst armored polar bears, but the movie was in such a rush to hit the bullet points of the story that her friend and his importance to the narrative, while present, were drastically under-emphasized.

The book then ends with a sharp and dark twist, to which Lyra's friend is also crucial, but the movie omitted this (filmed and finished!) sequence out of cowardice, so, if you haven't finished the book and have only seen the movie, you wouldn't know that, and since the friend only appears at the beginning and conclusion of the story, to lose the ending is to lose that key bookend element that ties the narrative together.

The next two books are a bit more open-ended, in that Lyra doesn't always have such a clear overarching goal; they're more about her evolving into womanhood, with plenty more adventures along the way. And, as theenglish says, organized religion plays a central villainous role. To say more would be spoilery, but that's the trilogy in a nutshell.
 
I'm a huge fan of the books, and I loved that trailer. It looks like they're doing it right this time.
I found the film reasonably good, though sadly incomplete. However, a limited series is probably the best way to go and this looks good.
 
I missed this the first time I watched the trailer, but I'm greatly amused to hear James Cosmo talk about going to the North. :lol:

I have to say, things look really promising this time. The trailer hits all of the big moments from the novel and some of the scenes look like line-for-line from the text (which could go either way). I'm puzzled that we haven't heard who are voicing Iorek (and Iofur) but hopefully they're saving that for a later announcement. Would be cool if they got Ian McKellen and Ian McShane again because they were terrific in the film.
 
The first book is about a girl named Lyra whose best friend is abducted (along with lots of other poor children), and, when she discovers that her mother is one of the operation's ringleaders, joins an effort to rescue him/them. It's a fairly straightforward tale, albeit with a memorable detour into a political fight amongst armored polar bears, but the movie was in such a rush to hit the bullet points of the story that her friend and his importance to the narrative, while present, were drastically under-emphasized.

The book then ends with a sharp and dark twist, to which Lyra's friend is also crucial, but the movie omitted this (filmed and finished!) sequence out of cowardice, so, if you haven't finished the book and have only seen the movie, you wouldn't know that, and since the friend only appears at the beginning and conclusion of the story, to lose the ending is to lose that key bookend element that ties the narrative together.

The next two books are a bit more open-ended, in that Lyra doesn't always have such a clear overarching goal; they're more about her evolving into womanhood, with plenty more adventures along the way. And, as theenglish says, organized religion plays a central villainous role. To say more would be spoilery, but that's the trilogy in a nutshell.

I was so cheesed off that they cut off the ending of the movie, especially when they hinted at it in the trailer!
 
I was so cheesed off that they cut off the ending of the movie, especially when they hinted at it in the trailer!
Yeah, that seriously pissed me off. They did it so they could have their little happy ending when in the book, it was the complete opposite. Ugh.

The film is frustrating because it has an amazing cast and visually, it's spot on, but they really screwed up the adaptation.
 
Yeah, that seriously pissed me off. They did it so they could have their little happy ending when in the book, it was the complete opposite. Ugh.
To exaggerate only slightly, it's as if the studio had cut the last ten minutes of The Sixth Sense. So there's a kid who talks to ghosts and sees an adult therapist... aaaand? Who cares? :p
 
I missed this the first time I watched the trailer, but I'm greatly amused to hear James Cosmo talk about going to the North. :lol:

I have to say, things look really promising this time. The trailer hits all of the big moments from the novel and some of the scenes look like line-for-line from the text (which could go either way). I'm puzzled that we haven't heard who are voicing Iorek (and Iofur) but hopefully they're saving that for a later announcement. Would be cool if they got Ian McKellen and Ian McShane again because they were terrific in the film.
I was watching the cast and producer's visit to EW's Comic Con studio, and one of the producers did mention having Phillip Pullman looking over their shoulders saying approving or disapproving of things, so it sounds like they've possibly kept him fairly involved in things. I also did not realize until I was watching the video that Dafne Keen is British.
 
io9's Comic-Con report contains a wealth of information about the production and one thing in particular stands out: Unlike most live-action films with CGI characters that don't involve Andy Serkis, the actors did not perform alongside balls on sticks but rather puppets who the could physically interact with

Since the characters’ relationships with their daemons are so crucial to the story, many of the scenes utilising them were filmed with an actor wielding a physical puppet, who could then be later edited out in post-production. [Ruth] Wilson and [Dafne] Keen noted how much having the actor physically playing their daemons made a difference, instead of just using a ball on a stick, because it gave them someone to interact with.
I think this is an excellent idea and I hope it becomes more common place alongside motion-capture performances.

Also of note is how the show is expanding, with Philip Pullman's permission, Mrs. Coulter's character and who she is when she's not around Lyra:

This was especially helpful for Wilson—who also revealed that the series expands on Mrs. Coulter’s story from the novels, giving her scenes and moments with her golden monkey daemon to provide more insight into this otherwise mysterious character.

"Philip Pullman gave us license to dig a bit deeper into her, and to sort of see her on her own with her monkey. To see who she is without Lyra, and why she might do the things she does. That, for me, was really fascinating to dig into. Why she has a monkey? Why can she separate from her daemon when no one else can?"​
 
This puppet concept was described in the Season 2 interview series. They used several rubbery miniatures that the kids could interact with during filming.
 
Here's the full panel in case anyone is interested (I'm about to watch it myself):

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I'm lukewarm on this. I watched the movie but don't remember anything about it, and I can't really tell what it's about still from the trailer.
 
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