High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rapist

[Cheapjack]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

I'd agree with you on that.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

But stranger-on-stranger sexual violence is another story. I have never heard of a woman breaking into the home of a stranger (male or female), threatening them w/ a weapon and raping them. Doesn't happen.

Really? That sexist attitude is startling.

Now, to address women on man violence, I find this article to be quite fascinating. This one, too. I tend to agree with Teelie that there is a very disturbing trend out there that almost seems to accept, if not condone, violence towards men by women. I'm not sure why that is but it's there.

Your linked articles were interesting, but they were addressing abuse within relationships. I was talking about stranger-to-stranger sexual violence. They're not the same thing, and the stats aren't the same.

So I ask, have you ever heard or read about a woman breaking into a stranger's house w/ a weapon and raping them?

 

[Cheapjack]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

You can get physically intimidating women. And, you can situations, where, if you don't do as she wants, within a relationship or a marriage, she'll get her relatives onto you. It's more subtle, but it's picked up from men.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

You can get physically intimidating women. And, you can situations, where, if you don't do as she wants, within a relationship or a marriage, she'll get her relatives onto you. It's more subtle, but it's picked up from men.

That meant as a response to my post immediately above it, or to the thread in general?

 

[Cheapjack]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

I'm saying women can do it more subtly, but they pick it up from men, I think.

Though I have never heard of a woman breaking into a house and raping, but there was that film, Class of 84, where they broke into a teachers house, raped his wife and the girl with them took photos. Whether that was based on real life or not I don't know.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

I'm saying women can do it more subtly, but they pick it up from men, I think.

Though I have never heard of a woman breaking into a house and raping, but there was that film, Class of 84, where they broke into a teachers house, raped his wife and the girl with them took photos. Whether that was based on real life or not I don't know.

Yes, I understood what you were saying. And I don't necessarily disagree. I just wasn't sure how it connected to my post, or whether it was even supposed to.

Never heard of the movie. But, going by your description, it doesn't sound very close to a female committing a stranger-to-stranger rape.

 

[Cheapjack]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

Women's prisons?

Or, do they pick that up from men?

 

[Deckerd]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

Women's prisons?

Or, do they pick that up from men?

What are you on about?

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

Women's prisons, for sure, Cheapjack. But that's not really strangers.

BTW, I think women can be violent and vicious w/o the influence of men. But, like you said, women tend to be more subtle about it.

 

[sidious618]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

Neither of which refuted what Kreacher said even a little tiny bit. Mentioning an inequality of behaviour which is clearly divided along the sex of the perpetrator is not sexist. You're trying to cow people who don't agree with you by calling them sexist, in the same way as a religious fundie will accuse anyone who disagrees with them of hating god.

Those links have nothing to do with what Kreacher said at all, I agree. As I said in the post I was addressing something else.

 

[Deckerd]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

And you're not addressing my point. Don't look at me with those come to bed eyes, dammit.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

You can get physically intimidating women. And, you can situations, where, if you don't do as she wants, within a relationship or a marriage, she'll get her relatives onto you. It's more subtle, but it's picked up from men.

How is that picked up from men? It's their own decision, plain and simple. And even if the violence is at times more subtle, the damage is equally abhorrent. Hidden scars can be just as bad as visible ones.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Re: High school cheerleader kicked off squad; Refused to cheer for rap

Hidden scars can be just as bad as visible ones.

So true! Often the invisible ones are worse.