Hey, I never noticed that before....
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Kirk looks so wonderfully satisfied with himself in that shot.
Is there a line missing in 'Bread and Circuses' when they talk about Kirk's execution on TV and Kirk said I heard it was similar. Similar to what?
To 20th century earth TV, he's insulting the audience.
CLAUDIUS: Oh, we've pre-empted fifteen minutes on the early show for you. In full color. We guarantee you a splendid audience. You may not understand because you're centuries beyond anything as crude as television.
KIRK: I've heard it was similar.
On the surface, it just means TV on old Earth was similar to TV on planet 892-IV. But this is a rare case of nearly "breaking the fourth wall" (or going meta, in today's slang) by alluding to the fact that Star Trek is a TV show, and that TV circa 1967 is (supposedly) mostly about brawls and airhead amusements. It was a sly joke.
I think it would have been funnier if Kirk had taken an innocent tone and said, "I can't imagine such a thing!" And then Claudius gives him a highly skeptical look. Cut to next scene.
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I always read it as "I've heard television was similar to gladiatorial games." I always thought that was the joke Roddenberry was trying to make - as an insider not an audience member.
Yeh thanks everyone I get it now but I never would have without your explanations.
I don't really compare being on TV to being a gladiator but I can see how if you were in the business you might.
I don't really compare being on TV to being a gladiator but I can see how if you were in the business you might.
Took me a few years to get that one too, Dale, but not as long as you!!!
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Wait, I just got it, too! I guess I've spent too much time in my globe. I need to get out in my Spockskin more often.Took me a few years to get that one too, Dale, but not as long as you!!!
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You just realized that now?
(Hey it wasn't until the 5th time I re-watched the episode that I 'got it'.)
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You just realized that now?
(Hey it wasn't until the 5th time I re-watched the episode that I 'got it'.)
To be fair, I had to read it in Allan Asherman's Star Trek Compendium. As a young 'un I always took Star Trek at face value, which is why I loved it. I was there for the space adventure and fights.
Watching Wink of an Eye tonight. When Compton disappears in front of McCoy in the beginning, I always assumed the Scalosians accelerated him intentionally. What actually happens, and I noticed for the first time, is he's taking water samples in a rack of bottles, and he wets his finger and takes a taste. Not exactly good procedure for taking samples of potentially toxic elements on an alien world! Or potentially accelerating elements.
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I love the way that television back then always showed a character who had aged suddenly or degenerated or was even seen in a future time always have thick, fluffy white hair instead of the wispy thinning pate we all know is the probable norm today!
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Got Sling TV for baseball playoffs. Been watching TNG on BBC. Haven't really seen it in decades. In the Naked Now callback/remake ep of S1, when exploring the frozen ppl on the Tsiolkovsky, there are frosty-covered Burke chairs, both the narrow bridge version and the wider Kirk-briefing-room style.
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03/nakednow_hd_043.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03/nakednow_hd_044.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03/nakednow_hd_043.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03/nakednow_hd_044.jpg
The Naked Now, and a couple of other early episodes, do feel like an extension of TOS, in style etc. The earlier sets, including some ship sets, also feel more TOS movie era. Really, it was season three that the 'look' of the show was solidified and defined IMO.
With respect to the sets- some of the corridors of the 1701-D use the exact same set pieces that made up the corridors of the 1701 in the feature films.
You have to remember that there was only 1 year between Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and the first season of TNG in 1987. Ergo it made sense to reuse those set pieces from a budget perspective.
Hell if you look at Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, with the exception of the 1701 bridge set, The majority of the ship sets are barely redressed TNG TV series ship sets that they filmed on.
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