• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Hey, I never noticed that before....

In "Charlie X", Tina Lawton is supposed to be a girl Charlie's own age to date. How the hell is a 17 year old serving in Starfleet? Let alone on the premier ship?
 
Premiere ship???
The Enterprise in TOS was not a "premier ship" or "flagship," it was just another working ship.

As for her age, yes that is a good point, unless she's a cadet serving aboard as part of her training. I believe Kirk did that.
 
Premiere ship???
The Enterprise in TOS was not a "premier ship" or "flagship," it was just another working ship.

As for her age, yes that is a good point, unless she's a cadet serving aboard as part of her training. I believe Kirk did that.

In TOS, if we get into the nitty gritty of the intentions of the time of that episode, the Enterprise was initially cast as this rare type of vessel that was capable of interstellar travel rather than just patrolling a star system or delivering cargo in a region of space.
 
I thought that The Enterprise was the flagship of The Federation? Maybe it wasn't earlier on but should have been by the end of the series!
JB
 
Am I mistaken.....I just watched Spock's Brain and it looks like Pete Kellet plays one of the Morgs on the planet surface and one of Kara's bodyguards. (?)
 
In "Charlie X", Tina Lawton is supposed to be a girl Charlie's own age to date. How the hell is a 17 year old serving in Starfleet? Let alone on the premier ship?
You've never heard of Enlisted personnel? You can join the modern military at 17. I'm sure the Enterprise is the first assignment for a lot of Enlisted and Officers. It's not going to staffed solely by veterans.
 
I thought that The Enterprise was the flagship of The Federation? Maybe it wasn't earlier on but should have been by the end of the series!
JB

Nope. Never mentioned. She's just another working ship, albeit one of the 12 largest and most capable in the fleet at the time. Not the oldest and not the newest, and not the most important. It's just out there doing the same job as all her sister ships. The word "flagship" is never uttered in TOS. And Kirk is apparently younger and lower in time-in-rank than any other starship commander, so why would he get to captain a flagship?

The 1701-D is called the flagship in TNG, though, not having a flag officer (admiral) aboard, it's not an accurate appellation.
 
The 1701-D is called the flagship in TNG, though, not having a flag officer (admiral) aboard, it's not an accurate appellation.

Oh for Pete's sake, not this again...
The Enterprise D is the Flagship of the Federation in what we would consider the modern retail sense of the word. It's the best and most prestigious, like Tiffanys at Fifth Avenue & 57th in Manhattan.
 
In "Charlie X", Tina Lawton is supposed to be a girl Charlie's own age to date. How the hell is a 17 year old serving in Starfleet? Let alone on the premier ship?
Don't take things so literally. Rand was DEFINITELY portrayed as around the same age as Kirk (IE in her thirties). Tina was probably in her early twenties = much more 'age appropriate' for Charlie.
 
Last edited:
"In the presentation film Batgirl is never seen punching anyone. Instead, she uses a rolling globe or a falling bookcase to incapacitate the Killer Moth’s henchmen. She’s allowed to get in a few kicks here and there but nothing more. Of course, the same could be said for April Dancer on The Girl From U.N.C.L.E., who often left the fighting to her male partner, or any of the female security guards on Star Trek, who could kick an alien but never punch them. During the 1960s, it seems, women weren’t allowed to punch because as Yvonne Craig pointed out that wouldn’t be feminine."

http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/batgirl/
 
It wasn't allowed. Even Batgirl on Batman had to kick only. No hitting, no martial arts.
I was there watching, so I know they didn't show it on US TV. However, no mention of censorship here, not even any mention that it was network policy. The most we hear here is that Yvonne Craig thinks getting very violent is unfeminine. She doesn't even mention punching.
 
Don't know about TV, but in comic books women were not allowed to punch in the 1960s. They kicked and threw the occasional karate chop -- but never punched. Finally sometime in the mid 1970s they were allowed to punch.
Maybe it was an artistic choice by all the writers and artists but it never happened.
 
It was a Mad Men world, and sexism lead to some ideas we consider weird now, because bigotry is dumb. It was not that actresses did not allow themselves to do it. The powers that be did not allow it.
 
I don't believe there was a "ban". Not bigotry either. They didn't hate women. It was just the WW2 generation clinging to gender roles.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top