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Hey, I never noticed that before....

And another thing, in the first part of "The Squire of Gothos", one of DeSalle's fingernails is painted black?! I don't think I noticed that before in previous viewings! Wonder why that could've been?
He probably smashed his finger in the turbolift door.
 
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I too watched "The Man Trap" last night (best part was when the kids freaked at the creature's true appearance, lol).

I noticed that Darnell (the first casualty) must have been wearing one of Spock's shirts, since you could clearly see where previously there had been two bands of stripes sewn on to the sleeves.

As mentioned above, also seems to be a lot of issues with keeping characters in focus in this episode.
 
I noticed that Darnell (the first casualty) must have been wearing one of Spock's shirts, since you could clearly see where previously there had been two bands of stripes sewn on to the sleeves.
Actually, Darnell was a Commander on a ship before Enterprise. It was there he told a woman that she looked like a girl he was with on Wrigley's Pleasure Planet.

It was an Admiral's wife.

Demoted to being Lieutenant Expendable on U.S.S. Enterprise.
 
Why can't people fancy their own race if they want to? What's the problem with that?
JB

Whatever the episode had done in that scene, somebody would call it racist. If the creature had taken another approach, we'd be hearing "Oh, she has to be swept off her feet by a white man?"

As it stands, we're hearing, "Oh, she's only allowed to be with a black man?" You can't win.
 
"Immunity Syndrome"....the full size hangar deck set has a black circle around the full size Shuttlecraft, while the miniature has a red square or rectangle.

What kills me is, the TOS-R fx made the mismatch far more glaring, by turning the circle bright yellow out of nowhere. I love some of the new fx, but the Hangar Deck and shuttlecraft fell short.
 
Whatever the episode had done in that scene, somebody would call it racist. If the creature had taken another approach, we'd be hearing "Oh, she has to be swept off her feet by a white man?"

As it stands, we're hearing, "Oh, she's only allowed to be with a black man?" You can't win.

Sure you can win. Just allow for mixed coupling, just as it happens in really life. I only have a moderately extended family and yet it includes three mixed marriages. Excuse me if I find it shocking that a so called future, three centuries from now, is less enlightened than my own family in the present.
 
Sure you can win. Just allow for mixed coupling, just as it happens in really life. I only have a moderately extended family and yet it includes three mixed marriages. Excuse me if I find it shocking that a so called future, three centuries from now, is less enlightened than my own family in the present.
At real issue is how far one is comfortable pushing the envelope. TOS was produced in the mid 1960s--that is fifty years in the past and society in general didn't accept certain things nearly as easily as today.
 
At real issue is how far one is comfortable pushing the envelope. TOS was produced in the mid 1960s--that is fifty years in the past and society in general didn't accept certain things nearly as easily as today.

If you take the time to read my very first post on the subject. I said something very similar and that makes me wonder why you've started this argument in the first place, to tell me my own words (more or less) but with a couple of hours delay.
 
Sure you can win. Just allow for mixed coupling

So shoot the scene just as you would wish, and the producers would win with you. But someone else would say, "Why couldn't a black man be her idealized fantasy figure? Only a white man is good enough?"

And if they had her seduced by an Asian man, someone would demand to know why she shouldn't be with a white man. Isn't she good enough for a white man?

So again, I'm pretty sure any approach can be attacked, especially by those who are eager to raise racial issues and, for lack of a better term, stir things up. That's all I'm saying.
 
If you take the time to read my very first post on the subject. I said something very similar and that makes me wonder why you've started this argument in the first place, to tell me my own words (more or less) but with a couple of hours delay.
It's not my intention to start an argument with you. One can't always recall every single post in a long thread.
 
Watching "Tomorrow is Yesterday". The two Airmen who help the Colonel arrest Kirk have no insignia, making them Airman Basics. Though, if they were Air Police they probably should have been at least Airmen .
 
I regret ever wading into this mess. The original complaint about putting Uhura with a black man, that I was indirectly responding to, just raises all kinds of absurdities. Why complain if Uhura likes a black man? She's allowed.

I regret having dignified your snide remark with a answer, next time I'll know better.
 
Sure you can win. Just allow for mixed coupling, just as it happens in really life. I only have a moderately extended family and yet it includes three mixed marriages. Excuse me if I find it shocking that a so called future, three centuries from now, is less enlightened than my own family in the present.

Now it happens in real life, but in 1966 it was still illegal in some states and would not have been allowed on network TV. Star Trek helped improve society in a small way, but in order to do that it had to get on the air.
 
Now it happens in real life, but in 1966 it was still illegal in some states and would not have been allowed on network TV. Star Trek helped improve society in a small way, but in order to do that it had to get on the air.

That's why my remark was more about the era than about Star Trek per se.
 
I can't help but notice that on some of the Blu-ray episodes, the mono soundtrack is missing several sound effects. That's bloody annoying! Not only that, but two of them replace the original theme music with the remastered one. I suspect they're downmixes or something.

You don't get that with DVD! :guffaw:
JB
 
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