Xenylon doesn't itch, I guess.
Yes, it was explained. Everyone on every starship has the arrowhead. What isn't explained is why the mistake was made in Doomsday Machine and Omega Glory that crew members are seen wearing non-starship patches.The insignia of the guys chatting in the bar in Court Martial, has that ever been explained anywhere? Were they crew members being off-loaded while the ship was in orbit or was it a coincidence?
JB
I wonder if for Doomsday the thought was that the commodore rank would use a different patch, similar to their rationale for admirals.
The patches that Decker and Tracy are wearing have the command division star on them.
Not a "later" idea; an idea that was implemented unilaterally by Bill Theiss, which producers, upon discovery, decided it was a mistake, not to be repeated. It wasn't.Let's be honest, changing the insignia of crewmen on different ships was just a later idea, right?
JB
Having done a review of the episode, you are correct. Must have been Franz Joseph's doing. He seemed at times to want everything to look that way he wanted, rather than the way it was.
It seems odd that Theiss would do it without approval. I'd think he got approval from someone, but obviously not as high up the decision chain as Justman. (Or maybe it's one of those things which was signed off somewhat absent-mindedly by the producers, while they were preoccupied with more pressing distractions that had come up concurrently.)Not a "later" idea; an idea that was implemented unilaterally by Bill Theiss, which producers, upon discovery, decided it was a mistake, not to be repeated. It wasn't.
Right.Admirals didn't have a special badge for their rank, the flower-shaped one they used seemed to be for personnel assigned to a starbase (Stone, Mendez, Shaw, Piper).
Right, again.Decker's did not, though I think some publications later retconned it to have one.
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dont really have to explain it if you have served in the military you dont think about it for example i have some awards that people that joined after me do not have because the ohased the award out or you have somethings from nato or being overseas that are not standard also when they change unuforms you have like a 3 year oportunity to chamge over so you can wear old or new sometimes both mixed : thisnis the cas with american military : so it falls with in thebsuspension of disblief for the viewer second the oeople in starfleet wouldnt think anything if it : things just change out as you are un able to get ahold of the old . so maybe for a term the tried indiidual insignia then they were like nah :but also it might even be like combat badges where you can wear anyone in a unit u served or none at all : once served with a platoon sgt that had a combat badge for almost every day of the weekI think it was a good idea but how do the Trek historians actually explain it? I mean the men on the starbase four and the crew of The Defiant (whom to me looked like they were wearing star shaped designs on their chests as well!)
JB
The patches that Decker and Tracy are wearing have the command division star on them.
Having done a review of the episode, you are correct. Must have been Franz Joseph's doing. He seemed at times to want everything to look that way he wanted, rather than the way it was.
You're thinking of Geoffry Mandel's Officer's Manual, Franz Joseph used the arrowhead for everything, he did however make up some new devices to include inside the arrowhead (the Greek letters gamma and pi).
not sure if thisnis the right place to ask it but seems ridiculous to start a whole new thread on it : i was wonding if spocks fascinating " was actually scripted or an ad -lib that just became a perfect response : wondering this because watching enterprise : of clurse thinking about t'pol reactions to experiencing humans : i was thinking how absolutley perfect writing is the one word response to situations : in particular inwas watching her wordy reveiw of frankenstein and instant flash backs of all those times when spock would observe sometbing and respond that single word and what an amazngly all incompassing statement it was. like i said i know this is a lot of topic so will probably get more admin hate mail but it seemed the most appropriate forum wothout starting a new thread to see if anyone knew if itwas actually scripted or an ad-lib character creation like the vulcan salute?
Shocked and sad to admit that until I came across this article, I had no idea engineering changed so much throughout the series. I was only aware of the addition of the steps and second level.
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