Hey, I never noticed that before....

[ZapBrannigan]

I sure doesn't look like a jacket that Theiss would have made from scratch. Looks more like it was manufactured.

We need to find out what it was for in real life, and what's up with pockets on the back that you can't even reach. Maybe it was an Air Force survival kit that you could grab out of a plane crash when fleeing into the wilderness behind enemy lines. The pockets might supply non-perishable food packets, a folded up thin blanket, maps, a compass...

If someone ever finds the real-life garment, that would be fantastic.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I suppose the numbers could be standardized codes that one memorizes from a book, so you know what goes in a pocket at a glance?

 

[Husk of Henoch]

I sure doesn't look like a jacket that Theiss would have made from scratch. Looks more like it was manufactured.

We need to find out what it was for in real life, and what's up with pockets on the back that you can't even reach. Maybe it was an Air Force survival kit that you could grab out of a plane crash when fleeing into the wilderness behind enemy lines. The pockets might supply non-perishable food packets, a folded up thin blanket, maps, a compass...

If someone ever finds the real-life garment, that would be fantastic.

Somewhere in here, we learned that the costume was recycled from either The Twilight Zone or Outer Limits.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

Probably nothing.

I was thinking either from a really great game of "Pico Fermi Bagel", or they're lottery numbers that lost so the designer made sure to let everyone know.

Or they're portable ODN conduits...

 

[drt]

I sure doesn't look like a jacket that Theiss would have made from scratch. Looks more like it was manufactured.

We need to find out what it was for in real life, and what's up with pockets on the back that you can't even reach. Maybe it was an Air Force survival kit that you could grab out of a plane crash when fleeing into the wilderness behind enemy lines. The pockets might supply non-perishable food packets, a folded up thin blanket, maps, a compass...

If someone ever finds the real-life garment, that would be fantastic.

The accompanying helmet seems to be made out of identical material, I'm thinking both were part of some airport firefighting kit.

 

[mb22]

The accompanying helmet seems to be made out of identical material, I'm thinking both were part of some airport firefighting kit.

Is that the helmet seen in the non broadcast version of WNMHGB painted another color?

https://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/al...no-man-alt-edit/where-no-man-alt-edit-065.jpg

 

[drt]

Is that the helmet seen in the non broadcast version of WNMHGB painted another color?

https://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/al...no-man-alt-edit/where-no-man-alt-edit-065.jpg

That helmet seems slightly different, I don't see the snap under the face shield visible on the other one (but maybe it's there and I'm not seeing it due to the screencap's resolution) - but that one definitely looks to be from a fire proximity suit.

I suppose that other helmet and vest could have been made by the production, but something about them just seems like reuse of some kind of real life hazardous materials equipment. If so, I imagine someone must have identified it in the past, but the internet is letting me down.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

This Air Force survival vest has big pockets that are similar in principle to the Star Trek vest, and the description of what goes in the pockets is not far from my guesses above:

Vest, Survival, United States Air Force

United States Air Force survival vest; camouflage pattern cotton fabric; six zipper pockets down front with black leather reinforcing strips (Top Left Pocket contains 6 2x2 gauze compress bandages, Middle Left Pocket contains, 2 Sterlized Dyed Dressings and Manual "SURVIVAL USES

airandspace.si.edu

This cargo vest for hunting also comes up:

Vintage Field and Stream Multi Pocket Tactical Zip Up Cargo Vest Size XL Outdoor | eBay

<p>-Vintage Field and Stream Multi Pocket Tactical Zip Up Cargo Vest Size XL Outdoor. </p><br /><p>-Size XL</p><br /><p>-Great used condition. Very nice vest. Very clean no flaws. No holes or major stains </p><br /><p>Message for anymore questions:) </p><br /><p>(Bin 5)</p>

www.ebay.com

Survival vest:

Survival Vest - 17 Pockets For All Your Gear

Instead of stuffing your pockets with gear, this survival vest comfortably carries everything you want to take with you and keeps it organized.

www.survival-gear.com

WWII USAAF Army Air Force Type C-1 Emergency Sustenance Vest

WWII USAAF Army Air Force Type C-1 Emergency Sustenance Vest - NICE - RARE #3 | eBay

The original leather holster has been removed, as is common on these vests. This vest is in Very Nice Condition. Several small tears where the holster was removed and on the individual pockets. Each pocket is faintly marked with the item it is designed to hold.

www.ebay.com

It appears to me that the waterproof Star Trek vest is a vintage emergency sustenance vest for the outdoorsman who might get lost, might get caught in the rain, and does not need to hide from enemy soldiers. Forest ranger? Territorial surveyor? Nature photographer? We want to know!

 

[Credit Check]

I suspect we could benefit from the knowledge of someone like James Cawley.

 

[Phaser Two]

This Air Force survival vest has big pockets that are similar in principle to the Star Trek vest, and the description of what goes in the pockets is not far from my guesses above:

Vest, Survival, United States Air Force

United States Air Force survival vest; camouflage pattern cotton fabric; six zipper pockets down front with black leather reinforcing strips (Top Left Pocket contains 6 2x2 gauze compress bandages, Middle Left Pocket contains, 2 Sterlized Dyed Dressings and Manual "SURVIVAL USES

airandspace.si.edu

This cargo vest for hunting also comes up:

Vintage Field and Stream Multi Pocket Tactical Zip Up Cargo Vest Size XL Outdoor | eBay

<p>-Vintage Field and Stream Multi Pocket Tactical Zip Up Cargo Vest Size XL Outdoor. </p><br /><p>-Size XL</p><br /><p>-Great used condition. Very nice vest. Very clean no flaws. No holes or major stains </p><br /><p>Message for anymore questions:) </p><br /><p>(Bin 5)</p>

www.ebay.com

Survival vest:

Survival Vest - 17 Pockets For All Your Gear

Instead of stuffing your pockets with gear, this survival vest comfortably carries everything you want to take with you and keeps it organized.

www.survival-gear.com

WWII USAAF Army Air Force Type C-1 Emergency Sustenance Vest

WWII USAAF Army Air Force Type C-1 Emergency Sustenance Vest - NICE - RARE #3 | eBay

The original leather holster has been removed, as is common on these vests. This vest is in Very Nice Condition. Several small tears where the holster was removed and on the individual pockets. Each pocket is faintly marked with the item it is designed to hold.

www.ebay.com

It appears to me that the waterproof Star Trek vest is a vintage emergency sustenance vest for the outdoorsman who might get lost, might get caught in the rain, and does not need to hide from enemy soldiers. Forest ranger? Territorial surveyor? Nature photographer? We want to know!

Plenty of forestry on the ship.

 

[Credit Check]

According to Memory Alpha, the hazard vest

... was previously used as part of a radiation suit seen in the The Outer Limits episode "Production and Decay of Strange Particles." [picture at reference]​

It does appear to be the vest. The number 1420 on the upper right pocket checks out, anyway.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

So in "Mirror, Mirror", there's a scene with evil* Spock, Kirk, and behind Spock is... another Vulcan, complete with ears and eyebrows but at least has a hairdo that isn't formed from an upturned cereal bowl that Mikey just devoured the contents within and hopefully didn't upchuck a few hours later like what all kids did back in the day cuz we didn't have those little dishwasher pod things to gorge on or whatever they do nowadays**...

...to contrast, in "The Enterprise Incident", the Romulan go-go-booted Commander is very much surprised*** to find out there's a Vulcan on a starship because of the rarity. Indeed, Go-Go Commander even cites a special interest in how interesting Spock's position is. So, had TOS's budget been larger, would there have been more Vulcans aboard the evil* Enterprise, and under what circumstances - what with Spock being surprisingly the same in both universes, as well as other non-Valeris Vulcans visible, virtually, were they the adorable pets of the evil* universe?.


* evil universe's, the mirror universe's, the universe with the beard's, universe number eight million six hundred seven fifth and three hundred nine's, et al

** Steps outside briefly to yell at them puffy floaty things up in the sky by the big glowy disc thing

*** and, among other things, drooling

Also, the silly pop culture references:

(Dang, how can they wear the sportcoat and businessey outfits and not end up wading in a lake of sweat? But I had a therapist named Jenny once. Yup. Cost more than a dime... ♫ )

 

[blssdwlf]

According to Memory Alpha, the hazard vest

... was previously used as part of a radiation suit seen in the The Outer Limits episode "Production and Decay of Strange Particles." [picture at reference]​

It does appear to be the vest. The number 1420 on the upper right pocket checks out, anyway.

Great find! Here are some better views of that hazard vest from the episode. Looks just like it with matching numbers front and back. Not sure about the helmet though.

 

[TRON JA307020]

This was probably mentioned here before but in. A few episodes when Kirk is on the bridge ypu cam see the hair piece line on shatners forehead. It's a light horizontal line. He was definitely wearing a piece.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

In "Friday's Child", on the blu-ray, the seams on the light diffusion umbrella behind Kirk and Spock while filming close-ups on Vasquez Rocks are visible.

"Amok Time"'s groovy green gong has the break-apart seam now visible when you couldn't see it before. Again, this is another blu-ray exclusive and its higher bitrate.

Also, in a near-close-up by Spock's console, you can see the thick fabric used for the blue communication speaker grille poking out slightly. Barely discernable only on blu-ray, it can reveal a lot of fun. I don't say this in a bad way at all, plus - and on the flip side - it allows one to really look up, I mean at, Apollo and how extremely well done the superimposed shot of him behind the picnic table when he's 50 feet tall is. That's only one of so many effects that are fully seamless. Really well done stuff. The makers of the show put in a ton of effort, for a show and on a medium that wouldn't begin to show any seams - so this nearly-60 year-old show really DOES look marvelous at its full higher resolution potential.

Also, McCoy's alligator thing on the wall has oversized creepy dark red eyes - another "blink and you'll miss it" moment exclusive to blu, because most photos of it on a wall are from too far a distance or compressed so much that the color is blotted out... yes, I'm a nerd.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

In "Journey to Babel", it's a double take, but the sign reads "HANGER DECK", not "HANGAR DECK"

 

[blssdwlf]

In "Journey to Babel", it's a double take, but the sign reads "HANGER DECK", not "HANGAR DECK"

IIRC, they kept the spelling even in "The Doomsday Machine".

I have seen in period pictures where the "hangar deck" is described as the "hanger deck" and if you do a search on the Books tab of google you will get a lot of hits of navy historical books that use "hanger" interchangeably with "hangar". So back in the 60s this was probably an acceptable version of spelling.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

IIRC, they kept the spelling even in "The Doomsday Machine".

Possibly because of the cost to redo the placard...

I have seen in period pictures where the "hangar deck" is described as the "hanger deck" and if you do a search on the Books tab of google you will get a lot of hits of navy historical books that use "hanger" interchangeably with "hangar". So back in the 60s this was probably an acceptable version of spelling.

I stand corrected, thanks! But also, aww shucks! Trek was usually good at being verbatim with Naval terms.

 

[Admiral Qu'irk]

Here's another fun perception - the huts shown in "The Deadly Years" look like Enterprise corridor bulkhead sets rearranged inside-out and painted black in the middle.

The blu-ray release makes the faint grayish-purple and grayish-blue accent lines within the hut more distinctive and prominent and as originally intended, as they were more muted on the DVD due to compression. Can't confirm due to not having the DVDs or the original SD screencaps anymore.

Also, the blu-ray of this episode also shows a great close-up of a comm panel and tape holster. More thick fabric on display and the holster is clearly a cut in the plywood. Blink and you'll miss it, so if you're allergic to cats, get one for the roughly 1.25 seconds it's shown on screen.

 

[blssdwlf]

Here's another fun perception - the huts shown in "The Deadly Years" look like Enterprise corridor bulkhead sets rearranged inside-out and painted black in the middle.

The blu-ray release makes the faint grayish-purple and grayish-blue accent lines within the hut more distinctive and prominent and as originally intended, as they were more muted on the DVD due to compression. Can't confirm due to not having the DVDs or the original SD screencaps anymore.

Also, the blu-ray of this episode also shows a great close-up of a comm panel and tape holster. More thick fabric on display and the holster is clearly a cut in the plywood. Blink and you'll miss it, so if you're allergic to cats, get one for the roughly 1.25 seconds it's shown on screen.

Very cool. I see that now too (I have the dvd collection.) We can see the top of the corridor walls!