Re: Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDA
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Hey, everyone! DRG's DS9 novel after Sacraments is called ASCENDANCE!
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i was pretty excited by that news as well.
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Could it be? COULD IT BE!?
Could it be? COULD IT BE!?
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It must be. IT MUST!
It must be. IT MUST!
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I was really hoping that the Ascendant storyline would never be picked up again despite people wondering about it from now until forever, but I'm also kind of a jerk like that.
Now I'm hoping this is the story of Elias Vaughn's triumphant return.
I was really hoping that the Ascendant storyline would never be picked up again despite people wondering about it from now until forever, but I'm also kind of a jerk like that.
Now I'm hoping this is the story of Elias Vaughn's triumphant return.
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Hello, I've been a lurker for a while and am finally coming into the light, so please forgive me if I somehow cause a warp core malfunction or something.
I wonder if Sacraments will take place immediately after Revelation and Dust and focus primarily on Sisko, Kasidy, Kira, Taran'atar, Cenn, the visitor, and any others who were absent in Ceremony of Losses and/or The Missing. Perhaps that novel's events will take place concurrently with the events of Ceremony and The Missing and also feature a backstory telling the tale of the Ascendants? And then all will come together for Ascendance?
Hello, I've been a lurker for a while and am finally coming into the light, so please forgive me if I somehow cause a warp core malfunction or something.
I wonder if Sacraments will take place immediately after Revelation and Dust and focus primarily on Sisko, Kasidy, Kira, Taran'atar, Cenn, the visitor, and any others who were absent in Ceremony of Losses and/or The Missing. Perhaps that novel's events will take place concurrently with the events of Ceremony and The Missing and also feature a backstory telling the tale of the Ascendants? And then all will come together for Ascendance?
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I was hoping they would bring back SD Perry if they ever planned to finish the Ascendant's storyline. Ever since "Rough Beasts of Empire," I've found DRG's novels dangerously close to bad fan-fic. (Vedek Kira anyone?)
I was hoping they would bring back SD Perry if they ever planned to finish the Ascendant's storyline. Ever since "Rough Beasts of Empire," I've found DRG's novels dangerously close to bad fan-fic. (Vedek Kira anyone?)
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You didn't like Plagues of Night / Raise the Dawn? I thought he nailed it with those two.
You didn't like Plagues of Night / Raise the Dawn? I thought he nailed it with those two.
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Is the idea that someone as religious as Kira, that someone who has now intervened so decisively in the affairs of the Bajoran Church as Kira did in Avatar, would become a vedek, really all that implausible?
Is the idea that someone as religious as Kira, that someone who has now intervened so decisively in the affairs of the Bajoran Church as Kira did in Avatar, would become a vedek, really all that implausible?
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^ Kira is also someone who likes to be active and busy (it struck me quite strongly when I was recently re-reading the DS9-R novels how disconnected that Kira was to the vedek we are later presented with in "Plagues of Night"), too restless and too much loving things happening around her to make a sudden (perhaps?) choice of dropping everything to live in a monastery.
Sure, it could happen and is not implausible, but without that change being presented to us (at least to me) it just does not fit what we know of her.
So yeah, Vedek Kira being thrown at me without any background story just does not fit her personality. It's not about her lack of faith, it's about her personality. She's fire. Fire doesn't become vedeks, Opakas do
^ Kira is also someone who likes to be active and busy (it struck me quite strongly when I was recently re-reading the DS9-R novels how disconnected that Kira was to the vedek we are later presented with in "Plagues of Night"), too restless and too much loving things happening around her to make a sudden (perhaps?) choice of dropping everything to live in a monastery.
Sure, it could happen and is not implausible, but without that change being presented to us (at least to me) it just does not fit what we know of her.
So yeah, Vedek Kira being thrown at me without any background story just does not fit her personality. It's not about her lack of faith, it's about her personality. She's fire. Fire doesn't become vedeks, Opakas do
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It does seem to me that there is something that happens to Kira and that is why I am hoping we will finally see what that is that allows her to become someone that is okay with a slower pace of life and a quieted soul.
It does seem to me that there is something that happens to Kira and that is why I am hoping we will finally see what that is that allows her to become someone that is okay with a slower pace of life and a quieted soul.
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Ditto I hope in we'll find out what happens to Kira in Sacrements of fire.
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I wonder whether it was related to Taran'atar's attack upon her in whichever book that occurred in.
Between that, Odo "leaving" her, and the fact that she's grown up a bit, I could see her wanting a bit more peace in her life.
I wonder whether it was related to Taran'atar's attack upon her in whichever book that occurred in.
Between that, Odo "leaving" her, and the fact that she's grown up a bit, I could see her wanting a bit more peace in her life.
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In Star Trek Online, she is Kai of Bajor as of 2409.
The blurb of Sacraments of Fire indicates that it picks up directly from the ending of Revelation of Dust. Concurrently with A Ceremony of Losses and The Missing? Maybe. David R. George III has written several novels that span a long time.Hello, I've been a lurker for a while and am finally coming into the light, so please forgive me if I somehow cause a warp core malfunction or something.
I wonder if Sacraments will take place immediately after Revelation and Dust and focus primarily on Sisko, Kasidy, Kira, Taran'atar, Cenn, the visitor, and any others who were absent in Ceremony of Losses and/or The Missing. Perhaps that novel's events will take place concurrently with the events of Ceremony and The Missing and also feature a backstory telling the tale of the Ascendants? And then all will come together for Ascendance?
So yeah, Vedek Kira being thrown at me without any background story just does not fit her personality. It's not about her lack of faith, it's about her personality. She's fire. Fire doesn't become vedeks, Opakas do
In Star Trek Online, she is Kai of Bajor as of 2409.
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In all honesty, I really never bought the Vedek Kira story. She seems a like a different person. While I enjoy Captain Ro I wish it hadn't come at the expense of Captain Kira. It's not so much that I don't like Kira becoming a Vedek, it's that I didn't really see that path for the character as developed up through Worlds of DS9. Something happened. Something we don't really know or even hear about. The Kira we see in "Plagues/Raise" is more Kira than the brief appearance in "RBoE" was. As I noted with Revelation and Dust, it gets to be pretty annoying to keep reading "That thing with the Ascendants" without any real explanation when it effects so many characters.
And I still think Sisko should be bumped up to Admiral. ;-)
In all honesty, I really never bought the Vedek Kira story. She seems a like a different person. While I enjoy Captain Ro I wish it hadn't come at the expense of Captain Kira. It's not so much that I don't like Kira becoming a Vedek, it's that I didn't really see that path for the character as developed up through Worlds of DS9. Something happened. Something we don't really know or even hear about. The Kira we see in "Plagues/Raise" is more Kira than the brief appearance in "RBoE" was. As I noted with Revelation and Dust, it gets to be pretty annoying to keep reading "That thing with the Ascendants" without any real explanation when it effects so many characters.
And I still think Sisko should be bumped up to Admiral. ;-)
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That's been my stance as well. There's too much disconnect for me between Captain Kira from The Soul Key and Vedek Kira who we met in Rough Beasts of Empire. We have A and C, but B has never been given to us. It's never felt like a decision that made sense for Kira, at least based on my interpretation of her character. I could see something serving as a catalyst, convincing her to change, but so far, that catalyst hasn't been told to us, made clear.
In general, though, I'm just kind of generally unsure of this. I'm excited to get the Ascendants storyline, sure, but I really want it as its own separate story, not continuing the present day DS9 story with flashbacks to the Ascendants, like how the Tzenkethi flashbacks were in RBoE. I just think it's something that we've had to wait on and been anticipating for so long, I think anything for it that's less, to take this story and combine it with the ongoing storyline, or even use the 'Kira with the Prophets' element to flashback to it would be underwhelming and also distracting - that was my problem with DRG continuing the DS9 narrative in Revelations and Dust, that the Kira segments, no matter what their ultimate resolution and connection are to the greater whole, were ultimately distracting for what was going on amidst the rest of the story.
I would like to see Ascendance, if this is the long-awaited resolution to the Ascendants story that's been building up over the years, being a relative standalone, taking place in the post-Soul Key, pre-Nemesis time frame, rather than being part of the ongoing 'present day' storyline.
^ Kira is also someone who likes to be active and busy (it struck me quite strongly when I was recently re-reading the DS9-R novels how disconnected that Kira was to the vedek we are later presented with in "Plagues of Night"), too restless and too much loving things happening around her to make a sudden (perhaps?) choice of dropping everything to live in a monastery.
Sure, it could happen and is not implausible, but without that change being presented to us (at least to me) it just does not fit what we know of her.
So yeah, Vedek Kira being thrown at me without any background story just does not fit her personality. It's not about her lack of faith, it's about her personality. She's fire. Fire doesn't become vedeks, Opakas do
That's been my stance as well. There's too much disconnect for me between Captain Kira from The Soul Key and Vedek Kira who we met in Rough Beasts of Empire. We have A and C, but B has never been given to us. It's never felt like a decision that made sense for Kira, at least based on my interpretation of her character. I could see something serving as a catalyst, convincing her to change, but so far, that catalyst hasn't been told to us, made clear.
In general, though, I'm just kind of generally unsure of this. I'm excited to get the Ascendants storyline, sure, but I really want it as its own separate story, not continuing the present day DS9 story with flashbacks to the Ascendants, like how the Tzenkethi flashbacks were in RBoE. I just think it's something that we've had to wait on and been anticipating for so long, I think anything for it that's less, to take this story and combine it with the ongoing storyline, or even use the 'Kira with the Prophets' element to flashback to it would be underwhelming and also distracting - that was my problem with DRG continuing the DS9 narrative in Revelations and Dust, that the Kira segments, no matter what their ultimate resolution and connection are to the greater whole, were ultimately distracting for what was going on amidst the rest of the story.
I would like to see Ascendance, if this is the long-awaited resolution to the Ascendants story that's been building up over the years, being a relative standalone, taking place in the post-Soul Key, pre-Nemesis time frame, rather than being part of the ongoing 'present day' storyline.
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Never mind all that, but isn't a Vedek high up in the Bajoran religion? Basically their equivalent of a Cardinal? That's quite a career jump in five years or so.
^ Kira is also someone who likes to be active and busy (it struck me quite strongly when I was recently re-reading the DS9-R novels how disconnected that Kira was to the vedek we are later presented with in "Plagues of Night"), too restless and too much loving things happening around her to make a sudden (perhaps?) choice of dropping everything to live in a monastery.
Sure, it could happen and is not implausible, but without that change being presented to us (at least to me) it just does not fit what we know of her.
So yeah, Vedek Kira being thrown at me without any background story just does not fit her personality. It's not about her lack of faith, it's about her personality. She's fire. Fire doesn't become vedeks, Opakas do
Never mind all that, but isn't a Vedek high up in the Bajoran religion? Basically their equivalent of a Cardinal? That's quite a career jump in five years or so.
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I figure it's more like a Bishop. A smaller jump, but one that is perhaps believable in Kira's case since she was world famous already for her role in Bajor's political and religious life over the years.
I figure it's more like a Bishop. A smaller jump, but one that is perhaps believable in Kira's case since she was world famous already for her role in Bajor's political and religious life over the years.
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