He's "not an avid Star Trek fan"?

[gastrof]

What about all the hoopla we got about 'The people working on the movie are long time Trek fans'?

Now I'm really wondering what the stuff about the look of the action figures means. (An early look at the Trek XI Kirk and Uhura figures had them in the original uniforms, and the prop toys, communicators and phasers, were apparently on track too!)

Are they playing with us?

Do we REALLY have a movie being made by people who care about the original and aren't trying to change anything ('It'll be PART of the existing continuity. It won't violate ANYTHING!!!'), or do we have something being made by people who don't care about the old and are just happy to play in a new sandbox that everyone else has played in?

How do we read this now?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

gastrof said:
What about all the hoopla we got about 'The people working on the movie are long time Trek fans'?

That would be "the people" - not that each and every one of them are trekkies.

Abrams liked the show, but not obsessively (or "avidly" so). Orci and Lindeloff are the most devoted fans among the original group of producers. That's been what everyone's been saying all along.

('It'll be PART of the existing continuity. It won't violate ANYTHING!!!')

They haven't said that.

 

[Kegek]

gastrof said:
What about all the hoopla we got about 'The people working on the movie are long time Trek fans'?

We never got that. Levels of fandom have been clearly differentiated from the start. The only full-on Trekkie nerd is Roberto Orci, that's why he's been giving lots of interviews for fan websites and so on.

Abrams has always been described as a casual fan who liked the first two shows. Kurtzmann hasn't seen a Star Trek film since the fourth one.

 

[archeryguy1701]

I read all this as "The cast and crew are really excited about doing this, they feel they have some really great things coming up for us, and it has a very high potential to be a great movie." :thumbsup:

But I suppose it's up for interpretation.

 

[captaincrap]

chill out. The proof will be in the pudding
Out

 

[Sharr Khan]

Abrams liked the show, but not obsessively (or "avidly" so). Orci and Lindeloff are the most devoted fans among the original group of producers. That's been what everyone's been saying all along.

Exactly!

Is it me, or now is it becoming a requirement (from the diehard fans) that in order to make a Trek film you also must be a diehard or you shouldn't touch it?

There are clearly many people at work on this film who have more then a passing familiarity with Star Trek in general. Orci seems to be very close to the fanbase.

Sharr

 

[davejames]

I'm not bothered by it. Nicholas Meyer wasn't a fan either.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Actually, I'd be really worried if everyone on the film was claiming to be an "uberfan." Especially considering what some of the self-proclaimed "uberfans" say on here.

I want the guy in charge to be a good STORYTELLER. I want him to be surrounded by people who are Trek fans, though.

I've always believed that the best Star Trek came from when you had the "who cares about Trek, just tell a good story" people and the "who cares about story, just make sure it's Star Trek" people BOTH in the film... and often at odds... so what we get in the end is the best possible compromise between the two.

Of course, it's seldom the case that "good story" and "consistent with Trek canon" are actually in opposition... no matter what the "I could do it better than those old guys did mentality" folks would like to claim.

 

[Kegek]

Cary L. Brown said:
I want the guy in charge to be a good STORYTELLER. I want him to be surrounded by people who are Trek fans, though.

Agreed on both counts.

 

[Sharr Khan]

I want the guy in charge to be a good STORYTELLER. I want him to be surrounded by people who are Trek fans, though.

No issue with me at all. The storytelling should be first and foremost in those in charge's mind. I'm so sure it has always been like that recently.

This movies first concern should be, being a good movie before being "Good Star Trek".

A slightly expanded version of something I first posted in the news section then removed because I didn't see a reason to bother:

Lets imagine the producers of this incarnation are looking at it as if there *aren't any Trek fans already* and we've flashbacked to before "Where No Man has Gone Before" made it to the screen. They need to get people interested in and wanting to see this cool new thing called "Star Trek". Clearly thats what the thinking is behind the scenes here based on what Abrams has said.

I think its a good idea for the guy working on this project to be a "regular or passing fan" rather then a Trekkie when starting from a Flashing back to before "Where No Man has Gone Before"/as if no one's ever heard of Trek before mindset.

Sharr

 

[scotthm]

gastrof said:
He's "not an avid Star Trek fan"

Considering what some of the "avid Star Trek fans" on this board would do if they were making this film, I'm not all that sorry.

I want someone who understands TOS to make this movie, not someone who obsesses over Trek.

---------------

 

[Holytomato]

"An early look at the Trek XI Kirk and Uhura figures had them in the original uniforms"

The Cage, The Corbomite Maneuver, which?

The photos we have seen of the actors playing Starfleet officers have shown them in one color costumes (all red, all green, all white, etc.)

"Lets imagine the producers of this incarnation are looking at it as if there *aren't any Trek fans already* and we've flashbacked to before "Where No Man has Gone Before" made it to the screen. They need to get people interested in and wanting to see this cool new thing called "Star Trek". Clearly thats what the thinking is behind the scenes here based on what Abrams has said."

I agree.
:thumbsup:

 

[ManOnTheWave]

davejames said:
I'm not bothered by it. Nicholas Meyer wasn't a fan either.

Exactly. What's important are creative people who take their job seriously.

 

[gastrof]

Starship Polaris said:

gastrof said:
('It'll be PART of the existing continuity. It won't violate ANYTHING!!!')

They haven't said that.

Actually, that certainly was said by someone here claiming to be "the people working on the film" (whose name sadly escapes me, but who we all at least paid some attention to).

Ah...

I remember.

"Team Trek" was the name used, in some form. (Remove a space or switch to all lower case, possibly.)


EDIT:
Take a look here-
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=8220256#Post8220256

 

[gastrof]

Holytomato said:
"An early look at the Trek XI Kirk and Uhura figures had them in the original uniforms"

The Cage, The Corbomite Maneuver, which?

The photos we have seen of the actors playing Starfleet officers have shown them in one color costumes (all red, all green, all white, etc.)...

See this thread-
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8522825&an=0&page=0#Post8522825

Note the posts made by the OP. At least one or two more after the thread starter, if memory serves.

Really, I thought you'd know about this.

 

[gastrof]

Kegek said:

gastrof said:
What about all the hoopla we got about 'The people working on the movie are long time Trek fans'?

We never got that....

Yes, we did.

See my reply to SP above.

I seem to recall other things pointing in the same direction since then.

 

[gastrof]

captaincrap said:
chill out. The proof will be in the pudding
Out

And are we now a self-appointed Archie Bunker telling someone to "stifle"?

I didn't indicate anything needed to be chilled, and please don't tell me what emotions to feel or how to express myself.

Maybe it's yourself who needs to "chill"? Being a bit over-reactive where interaction with others is concerned?

 

[gastrof]

Sharr Khan said:

Abrams liked the show, but not obsessively (or "avidly" so). Orci and Lindeloff are the most devoted fans among the original group of producers. That's been what everyone's been saying all along.

Exactly!

Is it me, or now is it becoming a requirement (from the diehard fans) that in order to make a Trek film you also must be a diehard or you shouldn't touch it?...

Interesting reply, but it has nothing to do with what I actually said.

I never said you HAVE TO be a Trek fan to work on a film. I said there were claims made that the guys working on the film WERE longtime Trek fans, and that the movie was to take place in the existing continuity, not violating it.

To have that on record, and then have the "Captain" say that he's NOT an avid fan was a little surprising.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

gastrof said:

Starship Polaris said:

gastrof said:
('It'll be PART of the existing continuity. It won't violate ANYTHING!!!')

They haven't said that.

Actually, that certainly was said by someone here claiming to be "the people working on the film" (whose name sadly escapes me, but who we all at least paid some attention to).

Ah...

I remember.

"Team Trek" was the name used, in some form. (Remove a space or switch to all lower case, possibly.)


EDIT:
Take a look here-
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=8220256#Post8220256

"Team Trek" claimed to be working on "Enterprise" before it premiered, as well (though he/she has since reregistered) and that wasn't true either. Because an anonymous person registers on a Trek board and claims to be working on a movie doesn't mean a thing, and there's no evidence whatever to support the claim in this case.

No one associated with the film has said anything like "('It'll be PART of the existing continuity. It won't violate ANYTHING!!!')"

 

[number6]

I don't see the point in trying to find things to panic about. The film is being made. People will either like it or they won't.