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Heroes: "Strange Attractors" 10/26 - Grading & Discussion

Grading

  • Excellent

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • Above average

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Average

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • Below average

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • Poor

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Total voters
    37
So the cop took the kid out back and... had him dragged to death down main street without anyone noticing?

This show really doesn't know what it's doing with itself.
 
Below Average

Sylar in Matt's head and now taking over Matt's body has been done before and to much better effect in Farscape.

HRG and Tracy's storyline with Jeremy was useless. What's the point of HRG admitting, once again, that he has made mistakes? This is not character development, this is filler.

The only reason I'm watching now is to see if Claire loses her virginity to Gretchen.

Next week's episode does look promising though, if only because it's set in the season 1 timeframe. Big reset button coming? We can only hope.
 
Last week was solid, this week was better. I hope Heroes is building some momentum

I'm liking the show just fine--Sylar is one evil dude. And Cartman's got to be a retard, jeez.

Not realizing he was being played.

Still, it'll be interesting to see where this goes.
 
it looked like Janice saw something was afoot. That whole thing with Sylar having sex with her. Didn't we see that on the short lived, My Own Worst Enemy?

And this will probably sound somewhat perverted, but i know they've mentioned this topic in True Blood. But since Claire is a virgin and her powers are of self healing. Does that mean her hymen would grow back every time? But i guess since she doesn't feel pain. Every time will be like the first time.
 
Samuel has the right idea, but I don't trust his motivations. I think they are setting Noah up to grab onto the idea of a home for the specials.

Start some town out in the middle of nowhere, Idaho or Montana, where the supers with no place to go, can go. If he wants to help them, he needs to set up a sanctuary for those that need a home.
 
Kind of like Professor X? Setting up Noah as the Prof. X archetype. to Samuel's Magneto. While Angela Patrelli is the Mr. Sinister, in the background, kind of stirring things up for her own personal agenda. I guess Mohinder could have fit that bill too. I can see some parallels there.
 
I thought this episode to be ok. Clair and Gretch can always say the sorority girls spiked the water with something and it made them see things. No Peter means always a higher grade. Dont know what they are doing with Noah. Tracy still is useless. Can you really collapse a small building in a small town and have noone run out and notice? Ah well more of silly Hiro next week trying to save the girl. I wish his future badass self would come back and slap his silly brain tumor self in the head with the hilt of his sword.
 
Sylar in Matt's head and now taking over Matt's body has been done before and to much better effect in Farscape.
Not to mention it was done on this very show in season one when Jessica imprisoned Niki and pretended to be her. We even had the same convention of her talking to her counterpart--only Jessica wasn't dumb enough to do it in plain sight of other people like Sylar did last night.
The only reason I'm watching now is to see if Claire loses her virginity to Gretchen.
I don't know if it has crossed Claire's mind yet but given her regeneration ability having sex each time is going to be a painful experience since she is literally going to become a virgin all over again.
 
Sylar in Matt's head and now taking over Matt's body has been done before and to much better effect in Farscape.
Not to mention it was done on this very show in season one when Jessica imprisoned Niki and pretended to be her. We even had the same convention of her talking to her counterpart--only Jessica wasn't dumb enough to do it in plain sight of other people like Sylar did last night.
Oh be nice! This is Heroes after all... look at it this way, they're being somewhat consistent without how mindswappiness works! Let's call it solid continuity and move on :)
The only reason I'm watching now is to see if Claire loses her virginity to Gretchen.
I don't know if it has crossed Claire's mind yet but given her regeneration ability having sex each time is going to be a painful experience since she is literally going to become a virgin all over again.
Reminds me of True Blood :guffaw:

But anyway, Gretchen doesn't strike me as hardcore strap-on lezzer, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Actually, hasn't Claire been getting off on pain for a while now? She has no problem jumping out of buildings in the name of highly questionable and unnecessary science. I'm not a chick, but I've got to think that's gotta hurt more than cherry popping...:confused:
 
The only reason I'm watching now is to see if Claire loses her virginity to Gretchen.
I don't know if it has crossed Claire's mind yet but given her regeneration ability having sex each time is going to be a painful experience since she is literally going to become a virgin all over again.
Reminds me of True Blood :guffaw:

But anyway, Gretchen doesn't strike me as hardcore strap-on lezzer, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.
Well since the only entertainment we can derive from Heroes these days is in speculating about the perverse consequences of the characters' abilities--it did briefly cross my mind when Sylar acquired the ability to touch an object and see its history that he should be careful about where he put his fingers otherwise it could be quite a visual trip down memory lane.:lol:
 
I'm going with average -- not too bad, but not great either, which is what I'd say about the season as a whole so far. It's so far been a bit less stupid than last season, but I really wish they'd pick up the freakin' pace.

So Sylar is now in control of Parkman's body, eh? That's potentially interesting. I must admit, I thought they were going to turn Matt into an alcoholic so that he could keep Sylar down, so I didn't really expect the actual twist there.

Could we be seeing the start of a consistent character arc for Tracy (joining the carnies), thus making her character not quite so pointless? Here's hoping.

Also, I think Rebecca must have flunked out of invisibility school -- the whole point of that power is to not get noticed. Way to screw that one up, girl. :lol: Claude could teach her a thing or two.
 
won't claire always be a virgin... she heals....

She better not let the boys find out about that!

This episode was above average... for Heroes. Which means it's roughly passable compared to everything else on TV. God, this show has declined.

It was nice to see some of the story arcs make progress. I sure hope this circus thing is building to something good, but that's always the problem with this show: they build and build and build and there's no fucking payoff. At least we had Samuel bringing down the house--literally. I do like the ambiguity in his character. He is probably the most blatantly Magneto-like person we've had on this show. Not really a villain, just more of an ends-justify-the-means type with relatively noble goals. I do hope his blindness to Sylar's true nature comes back to bite him, though. As soon as Sylar gets back into his own head, he'll be in a carnival surrounded by specials whose powers he can harvest. So, if there's going to be some kind of arc for Samuel, I suspect it will be that not all specials can or should be part of his family. Some of them are irrevocably dangerous, even to their own kind.

I'm glad there's been follow-up on the Claire/Gretchen "romance," and that it wasn't just a one-off stunt. I suspect the two nameless PAC pledges will wind up early next episode.

What happened to Jesse was a foregone conclusion but at least they executed well. I had a feeling he was going to buy it when he was talking to Tracy about being a killer and everything. He wanted to die, and Noah had to learn that he can't save them all.
 
That's another things I don't really understand about Samuel in regards to Sylar. Does he just not understand what he is trying to unleash? Sylar is damn near a god, and an very evil one at that. If he gets his mind back, hell will be unleashed on earth in a fashion that no one has ever seen before. Especially after being trapped in Matt's mind for so long.

Also, no one even commented on what looks like Hiro making a deal with the devil (Sylar) in next week's preview?
 
i wonder if a dying Hiro would sacrifice himself to save Charlie, letting Sylar take his ability. At this point Sylar doesn't have Claire's ability. So he can still die. Although we all know Hiro will fail and Charlie will still die. So she can continue to do Glee.
 
Peter always seemed to me to the counter to sylar.... both of those characters have gone off on a tangent since then...
Peter needs to get his original powers back, and sylar needs to be put into his right mind.
 
The schizophrenia continues! Maybe they should rename this show Two Outta Three Ain't Bad, because it's shaping up that every episode has two decent plotlines and one bad one. If we're lucky.

Good plotlines, even if they involve characters being clueless about things they really should have been clued into long before now:

Matt - Fun storyline, and it was cute seeing Matt trying to booze his way out of his dilemma (and proper that he should have just screwed himself up worse as a result) but I see no plausible reason why Sylar needed to provide any more evidence to convince him that he posed a dire threat to Janice and Matty.

Matt should already be in DC, frantically trying to locate the missing Senator Petrelli. Shortly after Sylar coerced him into brainwashing his boss into ignoring his police brutality, Matt should have realized his one and only possible salvation is to give Sylar exactly what he wants.

But that's not salvation either - Matt is a dead man walking. If he wants to be a Big Damn Hero, he should commit suicide. That's his best choice at this point. It's hard to see how Sylar wouldn't immediately turn on Matt once he's back in his own body, and then really wreak havok, having obtained Matt's frightening powers.

Matt would then be helpless against Sylar, since his mental powers and Sylar's would cancel each other out. Then Sylar has the advantage, being able to use TK and all that against Matt, who would at that point simply be a normal, unpowered person vs. Sylar. What. A. Mess.

I can just buy Matt's "stupidity" if what it really is, is a guy who has a loving wife and infant son and everything to live for, who doesn't want to face the horrific truth: he has to end his own life because either way, he's dead. Pretty brutal. I'm hoping Matt can pull off some stunningly brilliant plan, but I'm at a loss what it could be.

Noah
- Effective and powerful storyline, but how could Noah be naive enough to think that a traumatized, emotionally unstable teenager could control his devastating powers with nothing more than some light supervision?

As sympathetic as he might have been, Jeremy was the kind of person the Company was created for - or should be revived for. Wasn't the plan as of last season's finale for Noah to reinstate the Company? Well, now presumably he will see the wisdom of doing just that, but why did he need more convincing? This is another idea that the writers didn't need to sell - they've already sold it, just get on with it!

I am, however, very happy to see the writers have found a role for Noah that makes him more than just an appendage of Claire. Speaking of whom...

Claire. Ugh, silly, pointless Sorority Slaughterhouse nonsense with a dash of sapphic angst.

I checked the ratings, they're still stable! This show has finally dug down to the audience who cannot be dissuaded, no matter what. :D I admit, that describes me. I'll suffer thru one stupid plotline just to see what the characters I like are up to.
I don't buy the idea that Matt absorbed Sylar's consciousness. It should be buried inside "Nathan"'s brain.
it makes no logical sense but to present the "logical" picture, that Matt's Sylar is just his own guilty conscience playing havok with his mind, is too confusing for the audience. So the writers are hinging the story on two absurdities: that Nathan "really" is in Sylar's body and that Sylar "really" is now in control of Matt. But this is far from the worst nonsense they've pulled since it's in the service of trying to make things easier on the audience, rather than just writing crap that confuses and annoys the audience, which is the usual drill. :D

That's another things I don't really understand about Samuel in regards to Sylar. Does he just not understand what he is trying to unleash?
Presumably - and the writers haven't sold this at all - Samuel has either never encountered a metahuman who is a threat to other metahumans or doesn't want to believe that someone like that exists because it threatens his stark us-vs-them ideology.

What bothers me about that plotline is how dorky poor Nathan/Sylar looks in the striped-shirt-porkpie-hat getup. Who wears that? I can't wait for Matt/Sylar to arrive at the carnival and be aghast how his body is being dressed up. :rommie: He'll probably slaughter everyone just for that.
 
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I too mocked Sylar's Mime shirt and stupid hat outfit. Some villain out there has the power to force people to wear really dorky clothes. Sylar was one of his victims.
 
I think that was the writer's(or costume director's) attempt to show that this Nylar guy is supposed to be a good guy. Bad guys dont wear stupid hats.

I guess I really am the only one who doesnt like the Head-Sylar torturing Matt storyline. I guess fat people with low self esteem deserve to be punished.
 
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