Re: Heroes: "Orientation" and "Jump, Push, Fall" 9/21 - Grade & Discus
Now if Nathan-Sylar develops an individual sense of identity and a will to live - and why wouldn't he? - he might resist a re-take-over by Sylar-Sylar. But that wouldn't really be Sylar making that decision. Nathan-Sylar is a new character, neither Nathan nor Sylar.
yes! that's what I want to happen. But that means Sylar
loses and the writers wont let that happen unless they give him Multiple Man powers and they split the body.
Hey how about this: Sylar totally takes over Matt's mind so that Matt is now Sylar, who obviously isn't going to be happy to spend the rest of his life as a pudgy cop (remember, Sylar's body is immortal, plus all those nifty powers, and let's face it, Sylar is a lots hotter than Matt.)
So Matt-Sylar embarks on a campaign to reclaim his old body and by now, Nathan-Sylar is aware of himself as being not Nathan but also not Sylar, so he knows what's going on, but not being suicidal, he is unwilling to give "his" body back to Matt-Sylar.
Nathan-Sylar is invulnerable and has a cornucopia of powers at his disposal but Matt-Sylar has that killer mind-control thing going and can probably brainwash anyone he likes into believing anything at all. So the fight between the two of them could be very interesting, unpredictable and complicated.
If we try hard enough, we can make this show more confusing than
Lost!
The loved ones problem? It's loyalty to the real person. A copy is not the same person. There's something chilling about the idea of your loved ones being able to accept a copy of you as if you never existed. It devalues all life. Don't worry honey. Mommy doesn't miss you now that you're dead. She just had a copy made.....from your killer....and now she accepts him as you.
That's a little too well adjusted, don't you think? I hope we're never that "evolved" as a society. How could Angela ever accept Sylar as Nathan, even if Sylar wanted to be Nathan? It's just....wrong.
Emotionally, people do have the tendency to move on. When someone is dead, there's a mourning period, but it would be unhealthy to hang onto the past forever. People need to adjust emotionally and get on with their lives.
The real hold-up to someone like Peter accepting Sylar-Nathan is not that this is a different person from Nathan - would it be so wrong for Peter to develop some attachment that is brother-like and similar to his attachment to Nathan? - but that
Sylar murdered Nathan.
And then the issue becomes, is this guy the same guy who murdered Nathan? If his persona is completely different, maybe he isn't. All Peter has to do is obtain Matt's power for a short time and poke around inside Sylar-Nathan's head. That more than anything else will decide the issue for Peter because he can directly verify whether this guy is the same guy who murdered his brother in any meaningful way. (The problem then becomes, how to dramatize this so the audience understands what Peter is perceiving?)
Of course he is Sylar (or Gabriel Gray, if you prefer) who believes he is Natahn! His conversation with Angela contained two big hints to the audience - one was his line about feeling invincible and not like a mortal; the other one was when he said that when he looked back at his life, it didn't feel like his life...and that he felt he had been a lousy son, brother and father, and wanted to be better from that point on: "I want to be a better me!"
I also noticed he called Angela "Mom" instead of "Ma." Little details like that make me happy.
And I think Sylar's sudden urge to be "a better me" is just his enthusiasm at having a new toy to play with. It used to be new powers and now it's a new body and new identity. I'm sure that when his old self re-emerges he'll get bored of the game and try to kill all the Petrellis (after he finishes off Matt, that's for sure).
Secondly, I may have missed something here, but people have been insinuating that Sylar has Nathan's memories. Why would we think this?
Sylar was glomming Nathan's memories (via his cufflinks and othr possessions) before Matt finished the job via brainwashing. So Sylar gave himself Nathan's memoires; Matt just convinced him that those memories are real.
Makes me wonder whether "Nathan" remembers his childhood now? Angela wouldn't quiz him and Peter is too young to clearly recall Nathan before he was a young adult, which is when he might have gotten those cufflinks.
(Five Years Gone) I wouldn't be surprised if Sylar-Nathan acts like a totally great guy for a while, and then flips 180 degrees and starts destroying everyone and everything.
The second that Dean, all bruised and battered, picked up a copy of Busty Asian Beauties magazine from the gas station he was shoplifting out of, we knew it was him. Only Dean would think of that 20 minutes after having to dig his way out of his own grave. 
