Heroes 3x17 "Cold Wars" Discuss and Grade
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Average - Bleh...
This show is just getting silly. It's like taking a flimsy episode of Smallville (which can't even sustain itself for a full episode) and dragging it out over several episodes, with the exact same character stupidity pitfall moments for the sake of plot.
The mind-reading of Noah could've been so much more. Imagine if they didn't know that Nathan was the guy behind it all, and the memories Matt was reading started with the most recent and went back to the beginning to reveal Nathan as the big bad.
What would the three of them do with a combined half-brain though?
The mind-reading of Noah could've been so much more. Imagine if they didn't know that Nathan was the guy behind it all, and the memories Matt was reading started with the most recent and went back to the beginning to reveal Nathan as the big bad.
What would the three of them do with a combined half-brain though?
The hunter doesn't know Nathan is special or he wouldn't have asked Nathan how he got there so fast during the confrontation with Peter. He's already clashing with Nathan. If he knew, he's order Nathan incarcerated like the others.
I think he knows, it was more of a rhetorical question. He may not have proof, or may not know his relationship with the president, so is saving the info to use later.
A step up from the last 3 certainly... solely due to Angela and HRG. Shame that a step-up still only makes it average. I might have said above average except the ending and the painting really irritated me.
That Terminator/Heroes crossover sounds even more appealing after Mohinder and Matt's handbags. Jeez.
That Terminator/Heroes crossover sounds even more appealing after Mohinder and Matt's handbags. Jeez.
I think a slightly lower point than that was Peter, again, pointing a gun at someone without the balls to use it. What was the whole point of him going there if was conflicted?
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Well he did seem genuinly suprised when Nathan got to his apartment so fast. Obviously he flew but The Hunter seemed actually suprised...
These are Heroes writers. Of course the hunter doesn't know yet. Of course no one being hunted is screaming to the rooftops, "But Nathan's one of us! He can fly!" Fuller isn't here yet. He didn't create this arc. There's very little brainpower going into the scripts.
Maybe the Hunter will find out/get told by ooooh absolutely anybody else in the show that Nathan can fly in the pre-credits scene of Fuller's first episode. Only 3 to go right?
They'd better do something. Heroes hit a series low 6.91 million viewers last night with a demo in the low 3's--it came in well below 24's total viewers and it lost to 24 (which hasn't been scoring well in the 18-49 demo this season) by two tenths in the demo as well. Two and a Half Men on CBS was in reruns.
Heroes has a huge budget. I wouldn't renew it with those numbers were the decision up to me.
Heroes has a huge budget. I wouldn't renew it with those numbers were the decision up to me.
Pardon me if this has been discussed before, I usually don't look in these threads cause they're too big. Is it just me or is the "Fugitives" story one huge "pastiche" of the Marvel Comics Civil War? Nathan is Iron Man, the Hunter is Maria Hill, Peter is Captain America, etc.
I voted Average. I felt nothing much really happened besides revealing Noah Bennet's ulterior motives and his secret collaboration with Angela Petrelli. Matt Parkman and Mohinder's fighting like a couple was a bit annoying.
I'm not sure what's worse Cold Sores or Cold Wars.
Some good points, we got a little bit of answers, while somewhat predictable (Noah, the triple agent that he is)
Not sure what to think about the pending doom of Washington DC, yet another freakin explosion painting. Which for all we know could all be a red herring.
NY didnt blow up, but did in the future, Costa Verdes blew up in the future, and the world blew up, all in alternate futures.
And there's no way Matt being strapped with pipebombs on his vest, could cause something catastrophic like that,could it?
Some good points, we got a little bit of answers, while somewhat predictable (Noah, the triple agent that he is)
Not sure what to think about the pending doom of Washington DC, yet another freakin explosion painting. Which for all we know could all be a red herring.
NY didnt blow up, but did in the future, Costa Verdes blew up in the future, and the world blew up, all in alternate futures.
And there's no way Matt being strapped with pipebombs on his vest, could cause something catastrophic like that,could it?
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Ugh. I gave it below average. Even though the Noah/Angela scenes were great, even Noah's morally ambiguous "badassness" is starting to wear thin. It's more of a souless archetype now. And that line about him being comfortable in the shades of gray just struck me as pandering to the audience. It's like the writers were saying "See? He's still the fan favorite you guys like. So it must out balance out the stupidity we put forth week in and week out. Please don't bail on us,". I think that Nathan not being outed has been covered, so I won't expand on it. And it seems that Mohinder's new power is to attract tasers. I guess New York get's a pass this season. The way this episode has been, It makes me wish I could have tuned into Man Coulter and Sean Manatee. At least I know that, going in, it would be stupidity all around.
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You've got a point there, actually. You could even cast Noah as Spider-Man here.
Instead of "outing" Nathan, why not just go to the media? There has to be a few reporters with a beef with Nathan.
I am sure there are some nurses from his hospital stay who remember him having conversations with nobody, just before his religious awakening.
Point out that since Nathan started "protecting America", his Brother, his former Political aide and his former Bodyguard have "disapeared".
The mother of his Illegitamate daughter died in a fire two months ago at a Paper plant owned by the Petrelli family, and at exactly the same time it burned, another facility owned by the Petrelli family, Pinehurst also burned and the head scientist Dr Suresh is also missing.
Congressman Petrelli was also seen at an Arkansas Air force base where a plane launched and crashed moments later, and was targeted and hit by missiles fired from that same base minutes later.
Is Congessman Peterlli protecting America or just cleaning up after his family?
I am sure there are some nurses from his hospital stay who remember him having conversations with nobody, just before his religious awakening.
Point out that since Nathan started "protecting America", his Brother, his former Political aide and his former Bodyguard have "disapeared".
The mother of his Illegitamate daughter died in a fire two months ago at a Paper plant owned by the Petrelli family, and at exactly the same time it burned, another facility owned by the Petrelli family, Pinehurst also burned and the head scientist Dr Suresh is also missing.
Congressman Petrelli was also seen at an Arkansas Air force base where a plane launched and crashed moments later, and was targeted and hit by missiles fired from that same base minutes later.
Is Congessman Peterlli protecting America or just cleaning up after his family?