Heroes 3x17 "Cold Wars" Discuss and Grade
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I see what you're saying, but I differ in my thinking here.
Nathan's brother has powers. His daughter has powers. His ex-girlfriend has powers. All these folks with powers seem to know him. He seems to know all these folks with powers. I don't think its such a huge leap that if the Heroes were screaming "traitor you have powers!" at the top of their lungs - as logic or half way decent writing would demand they do - that it would be difficult to tar Nathan with that brush. The Hunter was painted as the most suspicious, untrusting man alive. A mere hint of it would give him second thoughts.
An Average episode dragged up from Poor by Angela and Noah's intrigue. If that plot line goes nowhere, this episode retroactively becomes Poor. And if I never see a painting of doom and gloom again, it will still be to soon.
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Haha, well done! You said a mouthful there. That's just exactly what's been happening since the end of season one. QFT!
I think that's a relatively safe bet. If Heroes was on the so called 'bubble', we'd probably have heard of it by now. Harry Knowles would be writing about it with all caps and exclaimation points.
I tried to sound excited, but I just can't do it. I think Claire developed a secondary mutation that allows her to suck the life out of every scene she's in. Not that there's much life left, but...Er, yay ?Don't worry, guys, Claire will be back next week! Yay! Yay...
Well... so long as the show has been on she has been a broken record for just wanting to use her powers and Horn Rims chants the 'I must keep you safe, Claire Bear' mantra. Who knows? Maybe that will be the last scene of the last episode. They both turn blue in the face and die of asphixiation from repeating themselves to death.
Question about Peters powers. So now he can only absorb one power at a time, is that right? And he absorbs the powers of those around him. So when he was with Larry and Curly, I mean Suresh and Parkman he still had the flying power. But if he was with Parkman, should Peter have absorbed Parkman's mental powers? Then he would lose flying. So he shouldn't have been able to fly away from the hit squad.
The writing on heroes has gotten pretty bad. Heroes seems so "By the numbers" plot. The first few episodes with Hiro and the safe, and the formula....I mean just bad.
Remember watching Star Trek? There were alot of episodes that were just crazy but they worked. Frame of Mind comes to mind. Would Heroes ever do a crazy episode like that? Heroes has to worry about progessing the overall arc, instead of just concentrating on a good story concept.
When the three amigos had HRG tied up and Parkman said something about this will be difficult because of HRG power to resist, I wanted Parkman to construck some kind of mental holodeck instead of HRG's mind to get him to talk. Parkman said they have to get creative to make HRG talk, but what did they do...? They drugged him and then just had Parkman use brute mental force on him?!?!?! That's as creative as they can get? Are you kidding me?
I wish Heroes would tell better stories. Heroes has had such a fall from grace. I still eagerly await a new episode every Monday, but I wish I didn't feel so used and dirty after watching it. I want to feel that "Whoa" feeling again.
The writing on heroes has gotten pretty bad. Heroes seems so "By the numbers" plot. The first few episodes with Hiro and the safe, and the formula....I mean just bad.
Remember watching Star Trek? There were alot of episodes that were just crazy but they worked. Frame of Mind comes to mind. Would Heroes ever do a crazy episode like that? Heroes has to worry about progessing the overall arc, instead of just concentrating on a good story concept.
When the three amigos had HRG tied up and Parkman said something about this will be difficult because of HRG power to resist, I wanted Parkman to construck some kind of mental holodeck instead of HRG's mind to get him to talk. Parkman said they have to get creative to make HRG talk, but what did they do...? They drugged him and then just had Parkman use brute mental force on him?!?!?! That's as creative as they can get? Are you kidding me?
I wish Heroes would tell better stories. Heroes has had such a fall from grace. I still eagerly await a new episode every Monday, but I wish I didn't feel so used and dirty after watching it. I want to feel that "Whoa" feeling again.
Peter now has to physically touch someone in order to absorb their power, just like his father.
Matt painting the future is so incredibly boring and inexplicable that I don't even care to find out the sure to be inane reason he suddenly got that power. Other than his lame contribution during the ending, this week's ep was pretty good. Mr. Shades of Gray needs a new schtick, but as always (other than season 1) he's more interesting when he's on his own, away from his family.
My theory is that downloading skews young (under 30) and Heroes skews younger than Lost. Lost might have more viewers overall, but if Heroes has a bigger proportion of younger viewers, then they could end up tied in the downloading sweepstakes.
Which does actually mean something for Nielsons. 18-49 is golden, but the younger end of that range is particularly prized, being more elusive and not watching so much TV anymore...
I'd be curious to know what realistic numbers for worldwide piracy look like. 10 million per episode? 100 million? I have no idea.
So does he lose powers when he touches someone with new powers? If so, picking up Parkman to fly off with him would have been a stupid move, even by Peter's standards. SPLAT!
An earlier episode said that Nathan was talking to the president. Pineherst got marines to be come super marines from someone. Kings are running about like the man hind the curtain 23 levels above presidential authority scaring shit out of Nathan, and these three idiots are hunting winged monkeys for fucks sake.
You don't think the Chinese are building there own superhuman army?
Just wait till an (cartoony) extremist Muslim terrorist with powers starts killing citizens by the bushel and pound.
The company was international.
By comparison that makes American Interests small.
Go to the fucking press already.
You have a telepath on board and you haven't blackmailed all the politicians on the hill?
Mohinda has the power of Spider-Man and the common sense of I am Sam since he stands still in front of Gun fire or runs into it. I wonder if he's related to Claire as well.
bad bad episode.
Cancel this shit.
You don't think the Chinese are building there own superhuman army?
Just wait till an (cartoony) extremist Muslim terrorist with powers starts killing citizens by the bushel and pound.
The company was international.
By comparison that makes American Interests small.
Go to the fucking press already.
You have a telepath on board and you haven't blackmailed all the politicians on the hill?
Mohinda has the power of Spider-Man and the common sense of I am Sam since he stands still in front of Gun fire or runs into it. I wonder if he's related to Claire as well.
bad bad episode.
Cancel this shit.
They did have one - in the unaired original premiere episode! But he was more a weepy cute boo hoo Hollywood liberal "Muslim terrorist" than the sort that would get the 24 seal of approval.
One day they'll have to do Heroes: If They Had All Been Smart.
Ah but Mohinder feels terribly guilty about all the Bad Things He Did back when the writers were writing him as unbelievably stupid or maybe just flat-out insane, so he wanted to be caught and punished (just as Matt accused him of). Which means he really shouldn't have to feel guilty about anything - the writers are at fault - poor Mo.
Shemp is Ted.
But Moe was the smart one!
Nathan should be Moe, then. He's also smart only to relation to the other characters.
Nathan's job is to stand there and look pretty. Pity that he can't be bent over a chair and spanked, but then again Heroes is pretty lacking these days. 
Aw cmon, wasn't that lover's quarrel where Mo ended up on top of Matt suggestive enough? And Peter's all "uh, I don't wanna hang around for this, guys, isn't there some pointless errand for me to use as an excuse to fly away..."
Which would explain why he showed up at Danko's place with a gun and no clear idea what to do next. He just wanted to get THE HELL out of that hotel room!
And Peter's all "uh, I don't wanna hang around for this, guys, isn't there some pointless errand for me to use as an excuse to fly away..."Which would explain why he showed up at Danko's place with a gun and no clear idea what to do next. He just wanted to get THE HELL out of that hotel room!
Aw cmon, wasn't that lover's quarrel where Mo ended up on top of Matt suggestive enough?
Nope.
Mo's stupidity nullifies any sexy. I want to throttle him in the not fun way. You gotta remember--I've been spoiled with the broyay hoyay to the extreme in the last two weeks. On Supernatural we had a male siren (watching lasciviously) getting Sam and Dean to wail the crap out of one another, throw knives, have Dean knock Sam backwards through a door and land breathlessly on top of him before getting up and assaulting him with an axe. Mo and Matt got nothing.
You'd have been all over that male siren business, Temis. He could morph from female to male and read minds to see what the victim really wants. All Dean wanted was a baby brother he could trust, so the siren decided to take Sam's place. Dean just had to kill him first. You want the hoyay? That was the hoyay. 
Sirens. Male sirens
Pasdar would have been hotter than a radiator playing that siren.
Mmmmmm.....Nathan. 
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You'd have been all over that male siren business, Temis. He could morph from female to male and read minds to see what the victim really wants. All Dean wanted was a baby brother he could trust, so the siren decided to take Sam's place. Dean just had to kill him first.
Ah that sounds like they're Trying To Hard. The secret to hoyay is that the audience shouldn't know that you know what you're doing, or at least it shouldn't be blatant.
And since when does stupidity neutralize sexy? Poor John Sheppard, nobody told him that!