Here's a Theory.

[Drone]

It's 2364, and Owen Paris is delivered a letter his son won't write him for another 7 years.

What if Owen didn't know that Tom was a Black Sheep that needed a kicking until Future Tom asked forgiveness for being a Maquis, before Owen knew what a Maquis was?

And really what's more important?

Saving Tom from his downfall, or derailing the boy's redemption?

You seem to be putting book on Tom even having written a letter to begin with. It's never stated and I wouldn't assume that the animus he held for his father, would even allow him to send something letting the latter know he was alive and breathing. If that were the case, no issue of future information, being used or abused, right?

In such a circumstance, how would Tom's so brief it's not really worth mentioning, involvement with the Maquis, mark him as the family's Black Sheep? Sure he wound up in the polkie, but didn't his previous misdeed that got him thrown out of the service, aside from having terminal consequences, do all the defining that his father needed to pretty much permanently see him in that light already, to say nothing of their conflict of attitudes as Tom was growing up? I know, the most recent infraction was for treason, but the fact that his involvement was, let's say pretty much non-partisan. probably led to the relatively light sentence and how much more did it really serve to condition his father's impression of him? His image didn't even bring it up in Persistence of Vision, just a regular laundry list of Tom's general deficiencies, probably from the viewpoint of his characterization of Tom from childhood on.

 

[Guy Gardener]

If Tom didn't send a letter to Owen, Janeway would have for him.

Kathryn would have also sent letters to the families of all the crew that had died on the "mission" so far, because that's her job... of course some of these families are Maquis who are amazed to find new reasons to burn Starfleet to the ground.

Here's the Mind fuck for you... Who did Seska send a letter to?

Ideally, Seska should have used a worm/virus from 2370 to write a back door into the any computer in the Star Empire that came into contact in 2153, with her flowery love letter to maybe a non existant fiance.

 

[Drone]

Well, nominally it could have been to her brother whose birthday she was just about to miss, allegedly. What would allow her to suppose that it would reach the Empire if they were going to be communicated to Starfleet en masse, as was the understanding?

 

[Guy Gardener]

A Romulan was going to hold these letters on Romulan computers for 20 years before passing them on to Starfleet.

 

[Drone]

I very poorly communicated what I meant to suggest. Simply that given the sensitivity of these messages, R'Mor's seeming pathos to Voyager's situation, and a sense that he might have conceivably harbored, that if the messages were maintained in the manner that you suggest and not kept privately by him, outside of any network, they likely would never again see the light of day, so to speak, such a strategy by Seska wouldn't have had a chance of coming to fruition.

Sorry for far less than clearly stating my meaning.

 

[Guy Gardener]

(Thank you for lawyering it hard.)

Just because the strategy was doomed, it doesn't mean Seska should give up, since all she had in the position she was in were long shots.

An unnetworked PADD kept in a foot locker, or a slightly hidden file on the ships computer labeled "Sweet Ass Fishing Holiday with my Boyz 2352"?

Janeway, and every other bugger her entire crew, didn't even have the good sense to send a letter to the Future in Future's End when she was already on Earth.

It was only 1996.

Why didn't she make a bee-line for Gary 7 and Roberta Lincoln?

Vulcan was 4 days away for ####'s sake!

Sure Rimor kept mum, but what about the rest of the crew?

 

[Drone]

I won't be lawyerly this time, just stupid, probably. How would they have sent a message from 1996, exactly? Unless you're suggesting that either contacting Seven or going? to Vulcan would be the means to do so. If so, how would they go about finding the former; I doubt he was in the same Manhattan officer or listed in any phone directory. That's assuming he would even help them.

As for the latter, when would they have had the opportunity to do so? Janeway would have to have been very sanguine about the away team's being able to function independently while sending Voyager away for nearly 10 days, and to an uncertain reception on Vulcan at that. When else could they have gone there? As soon as Starling was blasted, Braxton reappeared and just as he obviously wouldn't return them home, I don't think he would have let them go anywhere else in the contemporaneous time frame to cause more mischief.

Again, I did mention the stupidity of incomprehension at the beginning. Have I thoroughly bollocked up understanding your concept?

 

[Guy Gardener]

There was 8 hours where Paris was "sleeping" in the back of a volkswagon with Sarah Silverman.

140 there odd persons spent 3 or 4 days in the past, but we only observed 80 minutes from the perspective of a handfull of them at a time.

A "Subspace radio" call to the Vulcan Science Institute, would be faster than actually going there.

If a Vulcan Scientist can't be trusted, what about a Vulcan Law Firm?

Shit, bury a radio buoy in the moon, but program it to not start sending out a distress call till 2372.

 

[T'Girl]

Oh, oh, oh. What if the Federation did that treaty with the Cardies to ensure the existence of the Maquis.....

That's why Starfleet came down so hard on Maxwell, he was a monkey wrench in their plan.

 

[Finn]

I won't be lawyerly this time, just stupid, probably. How would they have sent a message from 1996, exactly? Unless you're suggesting that either contacting Seven or going? to Vulcan would be the means to do so. If so, how would they go about finding the former; I doubt he was in the same Manhattan officer or listed in any phone directory. That's assuming he would even help them.

As for the latter, when would they have had the opportunity to do so? Janeway would have to have been very sanguine about the away team's being able to function independently while sending Voyager away for nearly 10 days, and to an uncertain reception on Vulcan at that. When else could they have gone there? As soon as Starling was blasted, Braxton reappeared and just as he obviously wouldn't return them home, I don't think he would have let them go anywhere else in the contemporaneous time frame to cause more mischief.

Again, I did mention the stupidity of incomprehension at the beginning. Have I thoroughly bollocked up understanding your concept?

For the love of the Holy Roddenberry, he's Guy. Enjoy his posts.

 

[stardream]

(Thank you for lawyering it hard.)

Just because the strategy was doomed, it doesn't mean Seska should give up, since all she had in the position she was in were long sots.

An unnetworked PADD kept in a foot locker, or a slightly hidden file on the ships computer labeled "Sweet Ass Fishing Holiday with my Boyz 2352"?

Janeway, and every other bugger her entire crew, didn't even have the good sense to send a letter to the Future in Future's End when she was already on Earth.

It was only 1996.

Why didn't she make a bee-line for Gary 7 and Roberta Lincoln?

Vulcan was 4 days away for ####'s sake!

Sure Rimor kept mum, but what about the rest of the crew?

The Time Bandits (er...Time Police) would have prevented any of that from happening.

 

[hux]

Their department of temporal shennanigans only get involved when they're not off their tits (which is most of the time) hence letting Admiral Janeway screw with history.

Or... your timey wimey meddling benefits the Federation.

One or the other (I vote they're off their tits).

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ah! But which Timebandits??

BRAXTON [on viewscreen]: Do you know me?
CHAKOTAY: Yes, unfortunately.
JANEWAY: You tried to destroy our ship in the twenty fourth century and the next time we saw you, you were an old man, homeless, in 1996.
BRAXTON [on viewscreen]: I never experienced that timeline.
PARIS: Then what are you doing here?
BRAXTON [on viewscreen]: In my century we can scan time, much as you use sensors to scan space. The Temporal Integrity Commission detected your vessel over twentieth century Earth. I was sent to correct that anomaly. Prepare to follow me back into the rift. I'm returning you to your own time, to your previous coordinates in the Delta Quadrant.

There's at least two 29th centuries contending for dominance here, where one of them is a dunce with a blowed up Earth, and until the Doctor "changed" the future by loading the Torpedoes in their fight with the Eon, the more savvy 29th century Federation did not yet exist.

I actually misheard what Braxton said the first time.

I thought he said that he can "scan timelines" which isn't exactly what Braxton said above, but it's close enough that, it might be what he meant to have said if the language wasn't so bloody vague.

 

[hux]

But is the temporal integrity commission the only organisation putting time right?

Why is it the 29th century's responsibility to fix 24th century incursions? What the buggery are the 27th century temporal integrity commission doing all day?

Does each century to look after specific eras? If not then why didn't the 27th, 28th, 30th, 31st, 32nd or 33rd century temporal integrity commissions get involved?

Its a conspiracy!

 

[T'Girl]

But is the temporal integrity commission the only organization putting time right?

Them and Sam Beckett.

 

[Drone]

There was 8 hours where Paris was "sleeping" in the back of a volkswagon with Sarah Silverman.

140 there odd persons spent 3 or 4 days in the past, but we only observed 80 minutes from the perspective of a handfull of them at a time.

A "Subspace radio" call to the Vulcan Science Institute, would be faster than actually going there.

If a Vulcan Scientist can't be trusted, what about a Vulcan Law Firm?

Shit, bury a radio buoy in the moon, but program it to not start sending out a distress call till 2372.

"The Vulcan Science Directorate has studied the question of time travel in great detail. They found no evidence that it exists or that it can exist."

Ostensibly, if they believed that over 150 years hence, what possible plausibility would have been attached to such communications being received in 1996? I'd have to give your last shot the best chance, though again, they would have been pressed for the opportunity to even do that.

For the love of the Holy Roddenberry, he's Guy. Enjoy his posts.

Oh, I certainly do. At least those that I can remotely fathom. Come to think of it, maybe even those that appear to be written in a foreign tongue, for all I can make of them.

Perhaps, it's just that from time to time, I prefer to be scolded by Guy when I tire of the rather more unfriendly treatment that some of the few asshats that even pay attention to what I have to say, lay incessant siege to my usually reasonable rendering of reality.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But is the temporal integrity commission the only organisation putting time right?

Why is it the 29th century's responsibility to fix 24th century incursions? What the buggery are the 27th century temporal integrity commission doing all day?

Does each century to look after specific eras? If not then why didn't the 27th, 28th, 30th, 31st, 32nd or 33rd century temporal integrity commissions get involved?

Its a conspiracy!

No sir, it's a temporal Cold War where the Temporal Powers abide to Temporal Accords.

(All "real" terms used in episodes of Enterprise, as you probably know very well already.)

Seriously Brannon, buy a fricking Thesarus!

 

[topcat]

If you watch the episode again pay attention at the very end when janeway and tuvok are talking, tuvok specifically says the messages were never delivered to Starfleet. Somthign about the good doctor dying shortly after the messages were delivered.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Telek Rimor died in 2367.

3 years before Voyager got lost.

The Tal Shiar had complete copies of those letter 15 minutes after the Talvath returned to 2351.

The Hansens were cutting through Romulan Space around about 2351 on their Great Borg Hunt.

 

[hux]

If you watch the episode again pay attention at the very end when janeway and tuvok are talking, tuvok specifically says the messages were never delivered to Starfleet. Somthign about the good doctor dying shortly after the messages were delivered.

Tuvok simply means Telek couldn't personally give the messages to Starfleet. Doesn't mean to say he couldn't give them to someone else before he died.

TUVOK: I'm sorry to report Doctor R'Mor died in 2367.
JANEWAY: That was four years ago.
TUVOK: That is correct. Before he would have sent our messages.
TORRES: Maybe he left a will telling someone else to transmit the messages. Or he could have given our computer chip to the Romulan Government.
TUVOK: It is possible. Unfortunately, there is no way to know.