Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"
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At first glance I was surprised at the deviation from the tradition, but it quickly grew on me. I must say that I actually like it. It certainly meshes with the interiors we've seen. After I've seen it on the big screen I might come to love it. Most movie goers will instantly identify it as the Enterprise. I also think that the angle of this image is very wide angle, and distorts object nearer to the "camera," while diminishing those further away, like the starboard nacelle, and therefore the image is way out of balance.
There must a shuttlebay behind the pylons, cuz that's where the first shuttle appears to be heading. The shadowed line running lengthwise along the secondary hull makes me think that the forward cross section is a flared-bell curve, a la the D. And another D element is the widened back slope of the dorsal. Someone over at Hobbytalk has seen moving images of her, and says she looks better in motion, full of detail, and balanced. I also read over there that the nacelle end caps glow red orange when their powered up for warp.
I can't wait to see more.
There must a shuttlebay behind the pylons, cuz that's where the first shuttle appears to be heading. The shadowed line running lengthwise along the secondary hull makes me think that the forward cross section is a flared-bell curve, a la the D. And another D element is the widened back slope of the dorsal. Someone over at Hobbytalk has seen moving images of her, and says she looks better in motion, full of detail, and balanced. I also read over there that the nacelle end caps glow red orange when their powered up for warp.
I can't wait to see more.
I'm right, though, aren't I?
"Our weapons are ineffective captain, the ship appears to be composed of matter from a parallel universe!"
"My gods!... a dreaded reboot-class vessel!"
"Captain?"
"We're doomed! Set self-destruct! Get to the escape pods, and don't forget your sombreros!"
I'm right, though, aren't I?
It's going in my sig.
It's going in my sig.
I dare you to look at it now and not think that.
Well said, PLECOSTOMUS. 
Actually this pic does more to DISprove your point. The new Enterprise seems to fit in well when placed with the other Big E's. Thanks to you, I like it even more now!"Our weapons are ineffective captain, the ship appears to be composed of matter from a parallel universe!"
"My gods!... a dreaded reboot-class vessel!"
"Captain?"
"We're doomed! Set self-destruct! Get to the escape pods, and don't forget your sombreros!"
I dare you to look at it now and not think that.
All he needs is a sombrero and he's ready for his first "mission."
When you need a ship to stick it to the Klingons, who you gonna call?
3D Master
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Actually, yes we do.
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/Alcubdrive.html
http://www.earthtech.org/publications/davis_STAIF_conference_2.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9907019
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/2...arp-drive-by-manipulating-the-11th-dimension/
http://www.analogsf.com/0002/av0002.html
I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
We know exactly what we need to do, to get a warp drive to work. The only question remains: HOW to do it.
Then came Miguel Alcubierre - see above - 14 years ago (I was one year off earlier), and he figured; could Star Trek's warp drive actually work. He put it into the equations, and lo- and behold, it works EXACTLY.
Put your ship in a subspace bubble. Shrink space in front of it, and expand it behind it, and the universe will simply zip past you at FTL speeds; while the ship inside the bubble is essentially standing still. STANDING STILL. Thus NO stresses are placed upon the ship while it's at warp.
Actually, yes we do.
Which of course, would make it completely NOT part of Star Trek, not even a friggin' alternate timeline and reality it would be complete bullshit.
It IS the story. It's part OF the story. That Star Trek is actually based in science instead of a meaningless fantasy bullshit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_metric
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/Alcubdrive.html
http://www.earthtech.org/publications/davis_STAIF_conference_2.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9907019
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/2...arp-drive-by-manipulating-the-11th-dimension/
http://www.analogsf.com/0002/av0002.html
I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
We know exactly what we need to do, to get a warp drive to work. The only question remains: HOW to do it.
And has absolutely nothing to say about anything; they're just 2 hours of popcorn with your eyes closed and mind shut. It is indeed, a sad show of how bad the state of affairs is.
You're the one who brought it up. Especially considering that most "fan designs" are really just the TOS Enterprise done without the limitations of having to physically build a model on a shoe-string budget and time.
Actually, that's where you're wrong. You see, the basic concept was in Franz Joseph's Technical manual, which was reiterated by the creator of TMP, and those concepts were reused in later technical manuals.
Then came Miguel Alcubierre - see above - 14 years ago (I was one year off earlier), and he figured; could Star Trek's warp drive actually work. He put it into the equations, and lo- and behold, it works EXACTLY.
Put your ship in a subspace bubble. Shrink space in front of it, and expand it behind it, and the universe will simply zip past you at FTL speeds; while the ship inside the bubble is essentially standing still. STANDING STILL. Thus NO stresses are placed upon the ship while it's at warp.
In reality, while your at warp speeds, you're standing still, thus no particles slam into your ship at FTL speeds. For below sublight speeds, you have the deflector dish. And within the Star Trek universe that IS real. There is no need for the pylons to be massive.
It's a good thing the Enterprise E didn't look like that - it would still be stuck to Shinzon's ship.
Ok, ok.
The design isnt that bad, as a stand alone varient connie it works, as a mirror connie it works, hell, even for this movie it works.
Fuck me, what am i saying, its a new movie charting the early years, they can change what they want to be honest, they dont even need to have the enterprise if Pike wasnt involved. They couldve pissed everyone off and not built one, but they have, and this is what we got.
Anyway, now heres the Trek side of my personality...:
After a day at work, ive looked at it again and it isnt that bad, still not great, and still a bastardisation of a good timeless design which inspred almost all of modern sci-fi out of rocket ships, capsuals and saucers.
The saucer looks to be the most faithful out of the whole lot, still not too keen on the jet-nacelles.
TK421, hope you dont mind but i took your edited image and did a little further editing.
I like it, its differnt and whats its supposed to be, but, to get completly anal-trekkie about the whole thing...
Its a simple edit, but it does change the entire look of it somewhat.
All i have done is edit the colours of the dish and nacelle caps, and for comic effect, stuck in the TOS shuttle.
The design isnt that bad, as a stand alone varient connie it works, as a mirror connie it works, hell, even for this movie it works.
Fuck me, what am i saying, its a new movie charting the early years, they can change what they want to be honest, they dont even need to have the enterprise if Pike wasnt involved. They couldve pissed everyone off and not built one, but they have, and this is what we got.
Anyway, now heres the Trek side of my personality...:
After a day at work, ive looked at it again and it isnt that bad, still not great, and still a bastardisation of a good timeless design which inspred almost all of modern sci-fi out of rocket ships, capsuals and saucers.
The saucer looks to be the most faithful out of the whole lot, still not too keen on the jet-nacelles.
TK421, hope you dont mind but i took your edited image and did a little further editing.
I like it, its differnt and whats its supposed to be, but, to get completly anal-trekkie about the whole thing...
Its a simple edit, but it does change the entire look of it somewhat.
All i have done is edit the colours of the dish and nacelle caps, and for comic effect, stuck in the TOS shuttle.
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"Our weapons are ineffective captain, the ship appears to be composed of matter from a parallel universe!"
"My gods!... a dreaded reboot-class vessel!"
"Captain?"
"We're doomed! Set self-destruct! Get to the escape pods, and don't forget your sombreros!"
Nice one!
Makes me wonder...
There must be some horny little space-bitch in that shuttle craft.
so where does the NX 01 stand on the this?"Our weapons are ineffective captain, the ship appears to be composed of matter from a parallel universe!"
"My gods!... a dreaded reboot-class vessel!"
"Captain?"
"We're doomed! Set self-destruct! Get to the escape pods, and don't forget your sombreros!"
Nice one!
Retconned, out of existence.
trevanian
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Eaves LOVES the Excelsior, and that is clearly the idea (or problem) with the engineering hull on this ... thing. One of several, actually.
Usually Eaves does Starfleet stuff and the other designers do the weird stuff, but maybe division of labor is dif this time.
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