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News He-Man anime series from Kevin Smith coming to Netflix

Yep He Man. Will return. Not just in this show but future adaptations as well. Heck their is even talk still of a He Man movie.
 
The movie has been in development hell for literally decades. Part of me hopes it never gets made, though someone like Zack Snyder would probably be able to properly pull it off.
 
Zach Snyder would definitely make it visually interesting. I can only imagine how he would make Skelator scary as heck.
 
Adam / He-Man would be tricky. Would need to hire two different actors with very different physiques, yet similar facial features.

Which reminds me. I was thrilled to find out Queen Marlena knew the whole time. I always assumed she did (a mother would know), but seeing it confirmed was great. Alicia Silverstone was a really odd casting choice, though.
 
Adam / He-Man would be tricky. Would need to hire two different actors with very different physiques, yet similar facial features.

Which reminds me. I was thrilled to find out Queen Marlena knew the whole time. I always assumed she did (a mother would know), but seeing it confirmed was great. Alicia Silverstone was a really odd casting choice, though.
They could use similar tech tricks with Adam and He Man they did with Captain America and keep the same actor. Chris Hemsworth seems like a to easy choice for He-Man but I would go with The Rock or a unknown for the role. Someone who people basically only knows as He-Man.
 
One YT channel I enjoy is the Spector Creative channel by Scott Neitlich, who is not only a toy and MotU fan, but the former MotU brand manager for Mattel, shaping a lot of the MotU classic line. He also happens to be a Kevin Smith fan (citing the Clerks cartoon as one of his favorites shows ever). So this is one YT review worth watching:
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Would need to hire two different actors with very different physiques, yet similar facial features.

I think they'd just go the Hulk route with motion capture and CGI or digital editting to the skinny the actor down (similar to what they did with Chris Evans in the first Captain America movie).
 
A) his insisting that the show wouldn't be focused on Teela (the story is very much told from her POV, not He-Man's)
He didn't outright say it's a He-man show. He said the name of the show was 'Masters of the Universe' and He-man was in it. He has even gone as far to say that he is telling one story over 10 episodes and unlike the original animation which had stories that ended after one episode and basically reset everything he is doing that but as 10 episodes. He heavily hinted at He-man in the next 5 episodes.

B) making a huge effort to sell himself as a lifelong fan of the franchise, even though HIS fans, people who had followed his career for years, know that it's bullshit
Didn't feel he oversold it. Just that he watched He-man like the rest of us did.
 
He didn't outright say it's a He-man show
Yes he did, not only that, he explicitly denied it being focused on Teela (which was especially stupid, considering it was right there in the official synopsis).

Didn't feel he oversold it.
No, there are videos of him overselling it. He's been doing that sort of thing a lot lately, posting photos of himself crying and whatnot.
 
Just rewatched the first two episodes of the 2002 reboot and I have to say the show was awesome without He-Man. Revelations looks very much like a sequel to this show rather than the original, right down to characterisation and scrawny Adam. I think anybody annoyed by the reviews of Revelations should watch this first. I think they are going to feel like a more natural fit. After just two episodes I can see shades of Revelations Teela in the younger version.
 
Yes he did, not only that, he explicitly denied it being focused on Teela (which was especially stupid, considering it was right there in the official synopsis).

I watch almost all his free YT videos and listen to most of his free podcasts (some of which I also post in the Kevin Smith Appriciation thread), and I honestly can't remember him saying the show wasn't focused on Teela. Granted, I didn't watch all his videos, he does a lot of interviews and guest stints on other podcasts that even I miss, not to mention the stuff on ThatKevinSmithClub behind a paywall, so there might be something there (and I also might have forgotten something he said in those podcasts).

What I do remember is him pointing out that this show is called Masters of the Universe, and that Teela even had a big presence on the old show which did have He-Man in the title.

What he did say was that what ClownfishTV said was wrong. And ClownfishTV said that He-Man would step aside to leave the protection of Eternia in the hands of Teela and her girlfriend. And, while some incels might think that described the new show, it's not what happens. Neither is He-Man stepping aside, nor does Teela have a "girlfriend". She has a friend who is a girl, but that is not the same thing.

It should also be remembered that Smith seems to think of the narrative of the whole show, including the second half-season, and it wasn't his choice to split the series up into two parts. As he has already hinted at a lot of He-Man in the back five, and keeping in mind that there were quite a few flashbacks in this first part, it might just be a matter of perspective.

No, there are videos of him overselling it. He's been doing that sort of thing a lot lately, posting photos of himself crying and whatnot.
Well, there are a lot of videos of him crying. Like his reaction video to the first season finale of The Flash. But on the stuff I've seen, he was pretty clear: He did watch the show every day, but he didn't play with the toys, and he didn't dive as deep into the lore as he did with DC, Marvel or Star Wars.

What was going on was that the show was sold as a sequel, which it apparently isn't (due to details like Roboto's origin), but that isn't Smith's decision to make. Mattel and Netflix are in charge of the marketing, and as casual a fan as Smith was, he probably even missed those details and was actually thinking this was a sequel.
 
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What was going on was that the show was sold as a sequel, which it apparently isn't (due to details like Roboto's origin), but that isn't Smith's decision to make. Mattel and Netflix are in charge of the marketing, and as casual a fan as Smith was, he probably even missed those details and was actually thinking this was a sequel.

Roboto was in the 2002 cartoon as well. I will see what they say about him when I get to those episodes. The 1980s cartoons all merge into one for me. Even as a teenager i thought they were petty terrible. The 2002 cartoon after only 2 episodes has delved into lore that features heavily in Revelations. I still think it's a sequel to the reboot but I will reserve judgement until I have watched a few more.
 
nor does Teela have a "girlfriend". She has a friend who is a girl, but that is not the same thing.

I'm seeing some definite warm looks and touches between them. They read like girlfriends to me. And why not?


What was going on was that the show was sold as a sequel, which it apparently isn't (due to details like Roboto's origin), but that isn't Smith's decision to make. Mattel and Netflix are in charge of the marketing, and as casual a fan as Smith was, he probably even missed those details and was actually thinking this was a sequel.

Oh, it's obviously a sequel, but it's a sequel that's rewriting some of the continuity to fit its own narrative, which is something that many sequels have done. (E.g. in the Universal Frankenstein films, Frankenstein's lab was a tower in the hills in the first movie, a building on the Castle Frankenstein grounds in the second, and inside the castle itself in the third.)

And hey, it wouldn't be the first time. The New Adventures of He-Man in 1990 was presented as a sequel, but it made changes to the continuity and characters as well.
 
I watch almost all his free YT videos and listen to most of his free podcasts (some of which I also post in the Kevin Smith Appriciation thread), and I honestly can't remember him saying the show wasn't focused on Teela. Granted, I didn't watch all his videos, he does a lot of interviews and guest stints on other podcasts that even I miss, not to mention the stuff on ThatKevinSmithClub behind a paywall, so there might be something there (and I also might have forgotten something he said in those podcasts).
I'm with Kai here. I watched everything on his channel that wasn't behind a paywall. I feel there is a narrative that, for lack of a better term, haters, are trying to use against him, even in his most recent He-man Beyond Video on youtube. Out of everyone here on Trek BBS I dare say that Kai and myself are the most au courant on his content over the past few years.
 
@Kai "the spy" - you seriously gonna make me dig through tweets and youtube videos, just to win an Internet argument? I have better things to do, man.

I'm seeing some definite warm looks and touches between them.
What, you've never exchanged warm looks and touches with your guy friends?

Assuming you have guy friends.

They read like girlfriends to me. And why not?
Can't think of a single reason, but I can't imagine that fraction of the fanbase that's been shipping "King Adam and Sorceress Teela" since the 1980's being very happy.
 
It should also be remembered that Smith seems to think of the narrative of the whole show, including the second half-season, and it wasn't his choice to split the series up into two parts. As he has already hinted at a lot of He-Man in the back five, and keeping in mind that there were quite a few flashbacks in this first part, it might just be a matter of perspective.
Right, exactly. People are mad it's "the Teela show" for 3 or 4 episodes... out of 10. No reason to think Adam/He-Man won't be the focus of the back half. He was _not_ killed in episode 5, just wounded. One of the best episodes of the original series was Origin of the Sorceress. No one though it was becoming "the Sorceress" show then. This seems like premature outrage.
 
I'm seeing some definite warm looks and touches between them. They read like girlfriends to me. And why not?

I'm loving the new show - it's like a traditional Dungeons and Dragons adventure. That said, I want to see He-Man done well, not cast aside completely.

I think the only issue with making the ladies a couple is that it plays into this narrative that modern storytellers favour female protagonists to the point where male characters are side-lined. It's like the male-fronted franchise has been stolen by the so-called 'woke brigade'. It seems silly to aggravate traditional fans in this way, although in Teela's case this is over-stated. She wasn't quite equal in billing but she was more than a mere supporting character, with her own epic destiny that was barely explored. Man-at-Arms was probably up there with her. A male-female-male triumvirate was a very common trope in the eighties. Orko was also quite high profile in the eighties cartoon as comic relief, although less so in the 2002 version I think.

Teela definitely had the hots for He-Man in both versions. That doesn't preclude her having feelings for Andra, of course, especially after the passage of years, but I didn't detect any frisson between the ladies, personally. That could change as the series goes on. The fall-out from the Adam/He-Man revelation is wholly unresolved to the point where she has never dealt with her feelings. It would be a shame to squander that.

I suspect/hope that Adam's fate is being used to subvert expectations for storytelling purposes. Smith has done it a few times in the first 5 episodes. I don't want us to end on a reset button but I am hoping that we haven't seen the last of He-Man.
 
Again, it's already been confirmed that
Adam isn't dead, and He-Man is going to have an epic showdown with "Skelegod"
And this time I actually believe TPTB and I think older fans will be a lot happier with the remaining five episodes.
 
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