Haynes Enterprise Manual Updates?

[Captain Robert April]

I think that might just be the first bit of proof that what they were gonna put out didn't quite match what JJ had in mind, and why we're not seeing anything now.

THIS one, I'd buy in a heartbeat.

 

[Dukhat]

Egad. I was hoping for something a little more...futuristic? That cover looks like it came straight out of a 1970's Chilton auto repair manual.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Haven't you ever seen a Haynes manual? That's what they look like.

 

[Dukhat]

Obviously I haven't, or I wouldn't have said what I said.

 

[Mysterion]

I think that might just be the first bit of proof that what they were gonna put out didn't quite match what JJ had in mind, and why we're not seeing anything now.

THIS one, I'd buy in a heartbeat.

I WANT this book NOW!

please

 

[DEWLine]

Is it me trying to read too much into blurred text in that micro-JPG of the cover, or are they advertising dealing with more than one version of the Enterprise in that book?

 

[Captain Robert April]

Yup, it does appear to mention multiple Enterprise's (probably how Haynes was going to cover their bases; don't like this ship? Maybe you'll like one of the others we cover).

I think it reads, "2151 *something* (NX-01, NCC-1701, NCC-1701-A, to NCC-1701-E)"

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Jesus, people, it's a paste-up that has nothing to do with what the actual book will look like. Get a clue.

The article is from July. The cover lists multiple versions of the Enterprise because it's copied from the Haynes automobile guide series, which usually include a range of years and models.

 

[trevanian]

Have Kirk and Spock both driven by the desire to destroy Nero utterly...

... and then turn that on its ear. Instead of "killing the bad guy," have Kirk and Spock both agree that the way to resolve this is to take the "jellyfish" to the star which will eventually go "super-hyper-masso-humongo-nova" (and destroy Romulus), and "pre-empt" the event. Kirk, commanding the Enterprise, sacrifices himself and his crew to delay the Narada so that Spock, in the Jellyfish, can get to the star and do what has to be done...

Really good, and JTK dying against Narada echoes the sacrifice of the father up front, thus fulfilling 'big movie' convention of contriving resonance for emotional effect.

Actually, really really good, Car. Except it does nothing for the franchise approach, since you couldn't leverage any of the abramsverse designs for 'true' sequels unless you tore them down to their structural elements.

I finally saw it myself (all except the snow creature stuff; I'd seen that online and seen PHANTOM MENACE's sea chase so I wasn't going to sit through it again.) The movie didn't infuriate me as expected; it was just utterly uninvolving (and the visual 'style' gave me the expected headache.) It registered as anything but TREK, plus (worse) it bored the hell out of me. I'm guessing this is what a STARSHIP TROOPERS sequel plays like if they had insane budgets.

Back on thread ... Maybe Haynes can explain why the Enterprise has a big bladed device in its water pipe system to slice up all that nasty H20 into easily digestible bits? Feel free to correct me if that wasn't what I saw in the film, but that is what it looked like.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Well, they had to put the chompers in somewhere...

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Have Kirk and Spock both driven by the desire to destroy Nero utterly...

... and then turn that on its ear. Instead of "killing the bad guy," have Kirk and Spock both agree that the way to resolve this is to take the "jellyfish" to the star which will eventually go "super-hyper-masso-humongo-nova" (and destroy Romulus), and "pre-empt" the event. Kirk, commanding the Enterprise, sacrifices himself and his crew to delay the Narada so that Spock, in the Jellyfish, can get to the star and do what has to be done...

... and he succeeds, thus, actually SAVING Nero, well as reversing everything else that was "turned on it's ear" by Nero's arrival.

End the movie showing Nero, in the late 24th century... the one we know... as the first Romulan to serve as a starship captain in Starfleet... being congratulated by his mentor, Nimoy's Spock.

These people made a movie that more than a couple of thousand pre-programmed fans could enjoy. Your proposal is smug, trite, self-congratulatory crap - more a matter of creative typing than writing as such. There's not a chance that anyone would greenlight that for anything but a fan film.

For the record, Dennis, I consider pretty much everything you've ever done to be crap, so I'll treat this as high praise. "Tin Man" isn't exactly "Lawrence of Arabia," after all. But if you really want to be personal, hey, I can play too. You've done exactly one thing I've ever seen which was actually good... a CGI model of the TMP Enterprise (where you weren't CREATING, you were only COPYING the work of someone else).

I stated, in clear terms, what Trek as I've always cared about it is like, and how this movie would have been had it been done like STAR TREK, as opposed to what we got.

You, apparently feeling threatened by a vision which isn't YOURS, spent several posts attacking me, while you knew damned good and well that your "boyfriend" in the Trek'09 forum had just locked me off the site (and thus couldn't respond).

You're a weasel.

Oh, and by the way, my response now is based upon the fact that not one goddamned person on the TrekBBS leadership team was willing so much as smack your hand over this bullshit.

Uni, feel free to punish me for coming to my own defense, since you chose to blow me off "in PM."

 

[Unicron]

I didn't "blow you off," Cary. I've made it clear in another thread that I'm tired of the personal crap getting thrown around the forum lately, by multiple posters, and having discussed this one with the other mods, I was content to let it go because it had stopped being active. I was hoping that would be enough for you as well, but you now have a warning for flaming.

Closed. And to make myself perfectly clear, I will warn any more of this I see. From anyone. It stops here and now, because the regulars know I don't like to play mod most of the time. I shouldn't have to.