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Haynes Enterprise Manual? ... Part Two...

The Haynes manual, though, has no excuse. Unfortunately I have to chalk a lot of this to Okuda's involvement, since he seems to have a fetish for redoing TOS at every level.

This is probably a minority opinion, however: I appreciate a lot of what the Okudas and Sternbachs and others have done to clarify a lot of TOS inconsistencies and oddities and tie them in better to the tech stuff we saw in the latterday incarnations of Trek.

Well I feel the same way. Mike Okuda did an enormous amount to marry all the vague tech in TOS to what was then later seen in the movies and TNG. I am sure it was no easy task to tie everything together and have it flow historically, especially since he had come in fifteen years late to the party. I doubt many could have done so well with what they had to work with. I may not agree with everything he came up with but that is not going to stop me from being appreciative of all his dedication and hard work.
 
I'm guessing Haynes had their own people do this up, with Mike and whoever else was on the mailing list take a look at what they've done to offer comments.
 
Okuda: Hey, guys? You missed the aft compartment. Your scale is all wrong.

Haynes' guys: No problem man. It's just make believe anyway. No one is going to notice.


On this very site I've seen very insightful work on the Enterprise from CRA, aridas, Shaw, Professor Moriarity and others that rivals and even surpasses what I've seen come from "official" sources.
 
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^^ Me too. Although flawed FJ's materiel was also still interesting.

Easy to say now. Go back to 1971 and work with what he had, and do all those mechanical drawings by hand and then get back to me about how bad FJ's work was.
Make no mistake. FJ's original Booklet Of General Plans and Star Fleet Technical Manual inspired me with my own projects and likely greatly influenced many fans in their own endeavours.

And, yes, I appreciate the labour intensive work by hand. My early efforts were also drafted by hand. It's only in the past five years that I've begun doing things by computer.
 
Okuda: Hey, guys? You missed the aft compartment. Your scale is all wrong.

Haynes' guys: No problem man. It's just make believe anyway. No one is going to notice.


On this very site I've seen very insightful work on the Enterprise from CRA, aridas, Shaw, Professor Moriarity and others that rivals and even surpasses what I've seen come from "official" sources.

I hope that the shuttlecraft that is shown is just a preliminary design and not the final. If that is the case we are all right, but if not then Okuda and staff need to watch "The Galileo Seven" and make the necessary corrections.
 
Okuda: Hey, guys? You missed the aft compartment. Your scale is all wrong.

Haynes' guys: No problem man. It's just make believe anyway. No one is going to notice.


On this very site I've seen very insightful work on the Enterprise from CRA, aridas, Shaw, Professor Moriarity and others that rivals and even surpasses what I've seen come from "official" sources.

I hope that the shuttlecraft that is shown is just a preliminary design and not the final. If that is the case we are all right, but if not then Okuda and staff need to watch "The Galileo Seven" and make the necessary corrections.
I suspect it is exactly what we're going to see in the finished book.
 
I'm guessing that Rick Sternbach was approached but turned them down? Or was there even interest in contributing to the book? Are all of these going to be in black and white? I believe I read that there would be color illustrations as well...

Nope, not approached. Am working on a couple of other projects. - Rick
 
^^ Me too. Although flawed FJ's materiel was also still interesting.

Easy to say now. Go back to 1971 and work with what he had, and do all those mechanical drawings by hand and then get back to me about how bad FJ's work was.

The Haynes manual, though, has no excuse. Unfortunately I have to chalk a lot of this to Okuda's involvement, since he seems to have a fetish for redoing TOS at every level.

Compared to his peers, he certainly wasn't hampered by "having to" do mechanical drawings. Everyone did mechanical drawings back then. To me, the biggest mistake he made visually was in doing his schematics at the same scale they were printed at.

If I had done it, I would have done them larger, to allow more clarity and detail when needed, then scaled it down for printing. (This would have allowed for higher-resolution call-outs of those details too small to see on the main schem, which would have added value to the schems altogether). It seemed like he gave more time and love and attention to the writing, and banners and flags, and Starbase schems than he did to the starships, most of which were his babies, creatively (Speaking of the tech manual here).
 
The USS Enterprise Haynes Manual has just become available for preorder on Amazon here in the USA for $21.75 each.
 
This is probably a minority opinion, however: I appreciate a lot of what the Okudas and Sternbachs and others have done to clarify a lot of TOS inconsistencies and oddities and tie them in better to the tech stuff we saw in the latterday incarnations of Trek.

It's probably not a minority view, except within a group that's quite a small minority itself. Mike Okuda in particular is a great artist and one of the nicest, most level-headed and modest people you'd want to meet. Just about anything he does with regard to TOS is automatically of a good deal more interest to me than most of the "fanon" stuff.
 
I just got a note from Amazon that now they're not shipping until January, 2011. :rolleyes:

Oh god, now we're gonna be getting those "let us know if you still want this item or we'll cancel your order" emails for six months! :klingon:
 
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