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Hawaii Five-O - PILOT - Discussion and Spoilers

Grade/Rate

  • Episode: Excellent

    Votes: 9 22.0%
  • Episode: Good

    Votes: 19 46.3%
  • Episode: Average

    Votes: 3 7.3%
  • Episode: Bad

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Episode: Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Series: Will watch again, surely.

    Votes: 3 7.3%
  • Series: Will give it another try, then decide.

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Series: Will not watch again. Fail.

    Votes: 2 4.9%

  • Total voters
    41
I'm sure it will be mainly standalone episodes with the an arc in some episodes. It's going to be more CSI than 24 or Lost.
 
I'm sure it will be mainly standalone episodes with the an arc in some episodes. It's going to be more CSI than 24 or Lost.
I hope it'll be more NCIS than CSI. NCIS has some fun characters and occasionally cool (if formulaic) plots. CSI is just a straight-up snoozefest.
 
^ Yeah I just recently got into NCIS and it is much much better than CSI.
I like NCIS a lot, but I prefer its earlier seasons over its more recent episodes. The earlier seasons had a grittier feel to them, but with just the right amount of humor to keep things balanced.
 
I wonder if they'll have a story arc, not as a main story, but as an underlying problem that they need to solve throughout the season while still keeping the plot of the week, kind of like the war on DS9. They could have some of the cases they solve give them leads towards an overall arcing plot to culminate during the season finale. Then again, I'd enjoy it just as a plot of the week.
They seem to have set one up. First you have the tape from McGarrett's father, on which we hear him concerned about corruption in the HPD. Later, we see that there is a mole ("24" anyone?) in the police department, as they were the one that tagged Kono (Grace Park) as a cop when they were attempting to get inside the smuggling group. Plus, at episode's end McGarrett does mention to Danny that his (McGarrett) father had left that tape intending for him to find it.
 
Well clearly the pattern here is those of you who didn't grow up on the original, and who haven't seen the original really liked it. Those of us who loved the original are maybe a little less than thrilled.

I grew up watching the original and loved it, and if the pilot episode is any indication, I'll love this one as well.

There's not a single one of the main characters who I don't like and don't find compelling, and the chemistry between them (and especially between O'Loughlin and Caan) was great. O'Loughlin makes an interesting lead and certainly has the chops for pulling off the action scenes. Everything Caan said with his witty and sarcastic delivery was hilarious. It's awesome to see Daniel Dae Kim back on a new show already, and one that looks to be a winner. Grace Park is not only eye candy but delivers a good performance; albeit a relatively small one this time out. Jean Smart was brilliant in '24' and I hope her role remains equally prominent here. Plus, reading the Wiki article, it looks like Masi Oka will be playing the coroner. Yatta!

The eye candy didn't end with Grace Park, though that was certainly a plus. It's hard to make Hawaii look ugly, but even so the cinematography was beautfiul. I agree with the poster earlier who said Honolulu and its surroundings will itself be as much of a character as Miami is on 'Burn Notice' or 'CSI: Miami.' I like that they didn't just stick with the nice areas though and got to the "trailer parks" (quonset parks?) of the city's outskirts.

The actions scenes were superb with excellent stunts, realistic fight scenes, and actual changing of mags after an accurate (in my approximation) number of bullets were fired. That's almost unheard of for an action series. I almost couldn't believe what I was seeing when it happened. The final fight (though not really "final" since you know he'll be back) between O'Loughlin and Marsters was fantastic and the best TV fight I've seen since '24.'

There's enough callbacks to the original to pay respect while still charting its own course as a new series. The dialogue was well-written and the acting superb as well. Even the secondary characters and villains were interesting.

This show was hardly the one I was going to think would be my favorite new series of the season so far, but what a pleasant surprise. I'll definitely be tuning in next week.
 
There's enough callbacks to the original to pay respect while still charting its own course as a new series.

Everything is in the eye of the beholder, I didn't see the "respect" for the prior series. At all. Nada.

Glad you enjoyed it. Once I get over being appalled at the relationship between McGarrett and Williams and get past the comparisons, I may enjoy it too. If I stick with it that long.

For the most part, the answer to my question about why people tuned in has turned out NOT to be "because it was Hawaii 5-0" which kind of what I suspected the answers would be. My point being they didn't need the gimmick of the remake to make a show that people are interested in and like.
 
Having read about the original show on Wiki, it doesn't seem that much different than the new one. On the original show, McGarrett is a former Naval officer appointed by the governor for his job. He battled criminals, Mafia, spies, etc.

its the execution. The gunship attack and firefights were way beyond anything like the 1973 Mcgarrett putting a suspect down at 100m with one shot from his snub nose revolver. At the time I had the impression that McGarrett was the chief investigator for the State Police and all answered to him, HPD detectives down to the street cops. It looks like they are going more for the short cover special action team model, The Wire with gunfights and no typing up affidavits for warrants since Chin Ho flat out said its impossible for a Hawaii cop to go undercover since everybody knows your name.
 
There's enough callbacks to the original to pay respect while still charting its own course as a new series.

Everything is in the eye of the beholder, I didn't see the "respect" for the prior series. At all. Nada.

Glad you enjoyed it. Once I get over being appalled at the relationship between McGarrett and Williams and get past the comparisons, I may enjoy it too. If I stick with it that long.

For the most part, the answer to my question about why people tuned in has turned out NOT to be "because it was Hawaii 5-0" which kind of what I suspected the answers would be. My point being they didn't need the gimmick of the remake to make a show that people are interested in and like.

Fair enough. After their initial dislike Danno and McGarrett settled into a grudging respect and perhaps even a burgeoning friendship by the end in my opinion, but I can see your point.
 
Why does everyone think Marsters character will be back? If that was the case I am pretty sure we would have gotten the obligatory "they never found the body" line from someone. As it is, everyone looked pretty smug at the end that the case was indeed definitely closed.
 
Why does everyone think Marsters character will be back? If that was the case I am pretty sure we would have gotten the obligatory "they never found the body" line from someone. As it is, everyone looked pretty smug at the end that the case was indeed definitely closed.

All we actually saw was McGarrett telling Danno (or someone else offscreen at the moment) to call in a team to look for the body--definitely not a confirmation that Marsters' character was dead.

While you're probably right, the writers did leave it open-ended although I suspect we'll hear about it next week if the body wasn't recovered.
 
Why does everyone think Marsters character will be back? If that was the case I am pretty sure we would have gotten the obligatory "they never found the body" line from someone. As it is, everyone looked pretty smug at the end that the case was indeed definitely closed.


I think it's because it's James Marsters. They feel (and I somewhat share the sentiment) that he's too good of an actor to just have a bit part and get rid of. There's a lot we weren't told about his motivation and what they did. And the mysteries of the mole, what was in the box leave the case somewhat open ended. This could easily be a season long arc. I just hope they don't focus on it too much. Kind of like how Veronica Mars did it. With the main focus of every episode being an individual case, yet at the same time pealing back the layers of the larger case.
 
Why does everyone think Marsters character will be back? If that was the case I am pretty sure we would have gotten the obligatory "they never found the body" line from someone. As it is, everyone looked pretty smug at the end that the case was indeed definitely closed.

I've heard that Marsters signed for multiple episodes. But it appears to be just a rumor so far.
 
I think Marsters is too good of an actor to waste on just one episode. Until we get confirmation that the Coast Guard dredged up his body, I'm going to expect to see him return at some point.
 
I thought some of the stunt and action work in the movie was good like when he jumps at the last onto the hood of a crashing car during an early chase scene. Overall, I was impressed with the show and, yes, the cinematography and setting was nicely done.
 
I wonder if they'll have a story arc, not as a main story, but as an underlying problem that they need to solve throughout the season while still keeping the plot of the week, kind of like the war on DS9. They could have some of the cases they solve give them leads towards an overall arcing plot to culminate during the season finale. Then again, I'd enjoy it just as a plot of the week.
They seem to have set one up. First you have the tape from McGarrett's father, on which we hear him concerned about corruption in the HPD. Later, we see that there is a mole ("24" anyone?) in the police department, as they were the one that tagged Kono (Grace Park) as a cop when they were attempting to get inside the smuggling group. Plus, at episode's end McGarrett does mention to Danny that his (McGarrett) father had left that tape intending for him to find it.


Interesting. I wonder if we'll get some development out of that throughout the season. I mean, the arc doesn't even have to be the main story. It can be light stuff that adds to the depth which would feel like there's more going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, another thing I liked was the nod to the original series via the car that was being checked out under the covers.
 
Why does everyone think Marsters character will be back? If that was the case I am pretty sure we would have gotten the obligatory "they never found the body" line from someone. As it is, everyone looked pretty smug at the end that the case was indeed definitely closed.

Call it past experience with television shows. We frequently see characters apparently killed, with no reference in the denouement to a missing body or whatever device, only to have said character return. It's a matter of artistic license I suppose, with the director having a variety of ways to choose how to handle the matter.

There's no guarantee at all that he will be back, Yet so many times when we don't see a body or iron-clad proof of the character being killed, we see the return of said character some time later.
 
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