Now that could have been a nice bit of casting although I can't see Shanks doing the unshaven grunge cop routine.
Hawaii Five-O - PILOT - Discussion and Spoilers
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Well, like I said in one of my other posts in this thread, I'd rather have this than have another lame CSI show like CSI: Hawaii. Now that would have been generic. At least this has personality. And Sojourner mentioned the cinematography, which I'm thankful didn't degenerate into a lot of awkward cuts and camera shakes in order to make it 'edgy'.
I thought it was fun. I used to watch the original as a kid but it was sporadically. It just never caught on with me. It was too stiff and serious from what I remember. This version has more fun to it. I liked Jack Lord well enough but the guy was like granite. He really needed to loosen up some.
I always figured Hawaii gave CBS an offer they could not refuse. It wasn't as real as Dragnet/Adam-12, gritty as Kojak, no buddy team like Starsky and Hutch, no bang bang like SWAT. It was like the FBI with an exoctic location like Streets of San Francisco had. But never was it must watch when there was only one TV in the house.
Well philosophically I guess I really don't understand the point of remakes, especially when the remake varies so much from the original. Clearly the creators of this remake and had a totally different vision for this version. The setting, the setup (Naval officer named McGarrett taking over a state anti-crime task force), and the character names are the same, but that's where the similarities end. Last night's Steve and Danny have absolutely nothing in common with the prior series.
So again what's the point? Since it's not that close to the original, then past fans might not embrace it and the new potential fans wouldn't care about Hawaii 5-0 or Steve and Danny or Chin-Ho. So why not just create a new show with this new vision and forget about trying to capitalize on a past success when you have no intention of being that past show?
Maybe this is a good opportunity for me to learn something. I mentioned previously that several posters who weren't fans of the original and they seem mostly to like this new version. So my question to those posters is this. What made you want to tune it to this new show and give it a try? What was the hook? Was it the title Hawaii 5-0 that drew you in? I'm genuinely curious about this, not looking for any arguments or fights.
Had the theme song playing in my head all day. Thought I'd post the original opening sequence...
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepyGm9Me6w[/yt]
I also want to add that I was impressed with Will Yun Lee's performance as one of the bad guys last night. He's a good actor.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepyGm9Me6w[/yt]
I also want to add that I was impressed with Will Yun Lee's performance as one of the bad guys last night. He's a good actor.
It's a fair question. For me, I'm not really all that interested in all of the run of the mill cop shows, but Hawaii 5-0 was attractive due to the setting, and they've provided that with the beautiful scenery. That alone makes it fresh and interesting compared to all the urban grunge out there.
Agree 100% with this comment. I'm sick to death of urban grunge which was why I found Pushing Daisies to be such a breath of fresh air during its short run.
I know my personal proclivity is towards character-driven shows (should be obvious from the current batch of shows I DVR: Chuck, House, Big Bang Theory, Castle and now H5-0). If a show lacks likable characters who aren't cardboard cutouts and focuses on the procedural stuff (i.e., most CBS dreck as well as Law & Order), I usually find it really hard to enjoy. This show had good characters right out of the gate which was icing on the pretty Hawaii cake.
Yeah, that was definitely contrived and that entire conversation between McGarrett and the governor was completely television cop cliched.
But again, the cast and their interaction, the location, the action, and the high level of production raised it above.
I liked it because of the location (just went to Hawaii on vacation a few month ago) and Grace Park. I found the establishing shots a bit too "flashy" for my taste. And the cops are pretty unrealistic. I was hoping it would be a bit more "Law & Order in Hawaii".
I liked seeing that Hawaiian guy from Forgetting Sarah Marshall (the one with the T-shirts)
I liked seeing that Hawaiian guy from Forgetting Sarah Marshall (the one with the T-shirts)
I just finished watching my recorded version of the pilot. Rating it "average" I freely admit that's most likely due to my having watched the original regularly. But I think it will stick around for a little while at least. I tuned it primarily because this was one of my more favorite shows growing up. Call it curiosity.
What I didn't care for:
- the way Steve becomes head of this new law enforcement branch
- the opening theme was only half the length of the original.
- the wave curled from the opposite direction!!! (okay, j/k on that one. Bet that they did that as a deliberate way to depart from the original sequence.)
- the requisite "girls can do anything guys can, too) element.
What I liked:
- opening theme was very nicely done, sounding just enough different to be its own.
- the humor was nicely handled, it didn't overwhelm anything.
- Grace Park... niiiiiice!
- GORGEOUS scenery, and that's over and above Ms. Park's contribution.
- James Marsters is flat out cool in about anything he does. Shall we take bets on how long before his character comes back?
- the regular cast looks promising
What I hope:
- that they continue referencing the cultural differences between Hawaiians and mainlanders (what was the term , "howways"?)
- give more than lip service to this ongoing arc of investigating HPD
What I didn't care for:
- the way Steve becomes head of this new law enforcement branch
- the opening theme was only half the length of the original.
- the wave curled from the opposite direction!!! (okay, j/k on that one. Bet that they did that as a deliberate way to depart from the original sequence.)
- the requisite "girls can do anything guys can, too) element.
What I liked:
- opening theme was very nicely done, sounding just enough different to be its own.
- the humor was nicely handled, it didn't overwhelm anything.
- Grace Park... niiiiiice!
- GORGEOUS scenery, and that's over and above Ms. Park's contribution.
- James Marsters is flat out cool in about anything he does. Shall we take bets on how long before his character comes back?
- the regular cast looks promising
What I hope:
- that they continue referencing the cultural differences between Hawaiians and mainlanders (what was the term , "howways"?)
- give more than lip service to this ongoing arc of investigating HPD
"Haole," I believe.
I was told years ago that it's usually used regarding whites and mainlanders. It can also be used more derogatorily, akin to "mainland asshole."
Thanks for the clarification. I really do hope this is explored at least a little bit. Not at the expense of apparent arc they have going, but maybe work it into the mix somehow. It would give this new series an extra bit of punch I am sure it could use.
Yeah, exactly. Scenery and characters that have a good dynamic and personality. That pretty much sums it up for me. I wouldn't be interested in a procedural set in Hawaii such as CSI: Hawaii or L&O:Hawaii. This has flavour.