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Have you ever gone back and changed your mind about a film?

A TV episode couldn't have afforded "Insurrection"'s stunning cinematography, sets, music soundtrack, or guest cast.
All of which was wasted on a poorly thoughtout script.

In my opinion, all of that talent could have been utilized for a better story premise.

Even Rick Berman in his most recent interview confesses that they would have probably been better off had they put that premise aside and started over. Jonathan Frakes also has been quoted as saying that he disagreed with the premise of the film and that the script wasn't as good as the one given to him for First Contact.

No, I don't want to get into that ethical and moral debate again. There are too many worms in that can not worth bother opening.
 
I remember being angry when Berman was quoted as saying, "We can't out do the Borg." It's a multimillion dollar movie franchise! Why the he'll not?!
 
Insurrection is my least favorite TNG feature film. First Contact is my favorite although I do admit liking much of Nemesis.
 
My main criteria for liking a film besides the sheer entertainment value was excellent direction, cinematography, and editting.

Of course The Search for Spock and Insurrection debunked all of that as I grew older.

Heck, just for the sheer dark and negative anti-Star Trek tone alone, I rank Nemesis at the very bottom for having no heart.
 
I've loved every single Star Trek film that came out ... when each first came out. That first day, when the lights go down and the Paramount logo comes up, and the music starts is magical.

Now it's true I had a nagging feeling of doubt about The Final Frontier. And Generations kept interrupting my enjoyment with stupidity. But even those movies left me giddy afterwards.

It's only over the next few days that I start to look at each film critically; reflecting on the good and bad parts after the post-event glow has faded.

Surprisingly, my opinion of The Final Frontier has changed quite a bit over the years. For one thing, I've learned that worse Star Trek films really can be made. For another, I've come to appreciate Shatner's effort, even though it fell far from the mark. There's an amazing story buried in that movie that never actually made it to the screen. A serious examination of faith, loyalty, and duty that only gets a token nod in the movie. And while it's full of failed promise, it does have some great character moments.
 
I like Generations less and less as the years go by. Other than the 2009 Star Trek, Generations is the only one which I saw more than once theatrically. But, then again, I also saw Star Wars: Episode I a total of three times in the theater. Insurrection played better in the theater than it does on DVD. I've even found ways to nitpick First Contact, one of my favorites in the franchise. TVH is becoming a bit dated, though that's really the only bad thing to be said of it. TFF was my first time seeing a Star Trek film on the big screen.... Today, TFF is just TFF.

On the positive side, I've grown to love The Motion Picture, whereas I was mostly bored by it as a child. TWOK and TSFS both have an even greater emotional value for me now than they did in seeing them when I was younger. As for those for which my opinion has never changed, neither for better nor for worse:

I still love TUC just as much as I did twenty years ago. :techman:

Nemesis... is still the black sheep of the franchise that it was almost ten years ago.
The less spoken of it the better, or I run the risk of looking like this guy --> :barf:
 
I changed my mind about TMP. Like most I found it boring at first but now it's one of my favorites.

TFF i enjoy because the cast is having a jolly time being around another. Doing what they love. I cringe at the Klingon parts in this movie. TUC redeemed the failures of TFF in a nice and tidy way.

I was bummed about Nemesis at first because it isn't how i imagined the TNG crews farewell. If I watch it as another Trek film and not the last TNG film i enjoy it. Best part about Nemesis is it's the only TNG that doesn't feel like an extended episode of the show. It actually feels like a big budget movie like the TOS films and ST09.
 
TMP and Final Frontier and Nemesis are ones that have improved for me. TMP is actually one of my favorites now.
 
I've done a full 180 on Nemesis. It went from my least favorite TNG movie to my favorite after repeated viewings.
 
I've done a full 180 on Nemesis. It went from my least favorite TNG movie to my favorite after repeated viewings.

Curious, care to defend your reasons as to why?
Well, I really don't have to defend my reasons at all, but it really is just a case that upon repeated viewings, I did so as more of a casual viewer rather than a Trekkie. I found myself able to overlook many of the things I initially thought were wrong with the movie and just have fun with it.
 
I didn't care for TUC when it first came out. I thought the prison scene was very hokey and the humor was forced. But when I recently rewatched this film, I loved it.

Christopher Plummer's performance as Chang makes the film worth watching for me. But I also enjoyed the epic sense of history that Meyer imbued the film. He gave you the feeling of watching history in the making. Plus, it's grand fun that holds up very well.

And while I loved it when it first came out, as the years pass, I've grown to dislike ST: Generations even more. It's a very tedious film to watch. I enjoy the blunt commentary by the film's writers much more.

Sean
 
To me, Generations had the potential for being epic, and instead it just fell short of that mark. Of course, in fairness, it was never going to reach those lofty heights. Too much riding on it. That said, I like it more than I did.

Years ago, I rewatched The Motion Picture and found that I liked it more than I thought. The same for Star Trek: Nemesis, though it still remains in the bottom two, along with Insurrection. I lament Insurrection, because it, too, had the potential to be great. I lay the result at the feet of the writers, because the acting, cinematography, and direction were excellent (also, big fan of F. Murray Abraham).
 
When I walked out of Nemesis I thought: "Yeah well that wasn't too bad." but only a few days later I realized how totally stupid the entire film was.
 
When I walked out of Nemesis I thought: "Yeah well that wasn't too bad." but only a few days later I realized how totally stupid the entire film was.

I walked out of Nemesis really liking it although it didn't feel like a typical TNG movie and I couldn't put my finger on the reason why.
 
Because it's the only TNG film that doesn't feel like a grand expansion of the show. It feels like a big box office movie.
 
Because it's the only TNG film that doesn't feel like a grand expansion of the show. It feels like a big box office movie.

That's funny because I feel exactly the other way about it. I think it's the cheapest looking TNG movie they ever made.

I don't think Nemesis looked cheap. I think the dark lighting really hurt what details you could actually make out on the DVD. The blu-ray actually offers a much crisper experience.
 
Yeah, for all my complaints about NEM, it certainly doesn't look cheap.
 
TMP. When the movie first came out I was too young to understand how good it was.
 
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