I’ve never really “given up” on any Trek show—I’ll watch pretty much anything with Trek in the title—but the turbolift scene in Discovery was the last straw.
Have you ever given up on a Trek series? If so, what was the last straw for you?
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I know we don't agree about Discovery but, as far as Andromeda? I watched the first half of the first season in 2000 and that was it. Too much jumping around (literally) and action scenes on a low budget. I heard the show got sillier in subsequent seasons and never went back. The concept was there, not so much the execution.
That having been said, the biggest takeaway I got from it is something positive. I could see the Federation eventually becoming something like the Commonwealth, if it ever went from interstellar to intergalactic.
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I gave up Discovery and because of this topic was trying to pinpoint exactly when. I gave up for many reasons, but I seem to recall a big trigger being they did "Forget Me Not" which I thought was a well executed story, rather sweet. Then almost immediately one of them starts coming back as visions. And I remember thinking LEAVE. IT. BE. Tell a good story, move on. But they can't.
Also I hated Booker taking up so much time when not main cast, and other things... I hated all the flight suit time shenanigans red devil whatever stuff. I stopped I think with The Sanctuary.
Sorry if this is a bit vague or a bit wrong, as it has been a while since i gave up.
Also I hated Booker taking up so much time when not main cast, and other things... I hated all the flight suit time shenanigans red devil whatever stuff. I stopped I think with The Sanctuary.
Sorry if this is a bit vague or a bit wrong, as it has been a while since i gave up.
Book became part of the main cast in the third season. I'm only going to make that one factual correction.
ANDROMEDA did get worse over time (not quite the nosedive of EARTH: FINAL CONFLICT, but certainly a close comparison). Even if you went with only the first half of ANDROMEDA's first season, it's still a much better series than DISCO. And those 11 episodes had more good ones than the entirety of DISCO.
Yeah, no. Andromeda was complete shit. I enjoyed watching DISCO.
Andromeda had some pretty good episodes, at least in the beginning, but I did find DISCO to be the better show overall, especially once RHW left the former and it became "The Kevin Sorbo Hour".
TBF I lost track of it at some point myself, but from what I've heard, that was probably for the best.
TBF I lost track of it at some point myself, but from what I've heard, that was probably for the best.
I gave up on VOY because of the reset button.
ENT because it didn't feel like a Trek prequel.
DISC because we didn't like the characters, they where so irritating especially Burnham.
lower decks because it isn't my kind of humor
ENT because it didn't feel like a Trek prequel.
DISC because we didn't like the characters, they where so irritating especially Burnham.
lower decks because it isn't my kind of humor
Stopped watching ENT after season 2 but picked it back up again for season 4. Didn’t watch any of season 3 other than ‘Azati Prime.’
Also stopped watching DSC after season 3 and have no intention of watching the rest.
Haven’t seen the newest season of SNW yet. My interest in that show has waned considerably.
Also stopped watching DSC after season 3 and have no intention of watching the rest.
Haven’t seen the newest season of SNW yet. My interest in that show has waned considerably.
I’ve yet to make any effort to watch DSC S05 or the latest SNW. I watched about half of LDS S05.
I didn’t consciously give up on any of the above for any one reason. I guess as said above by Dukhat, my interest in the whole Trek streaming era has just waned.
The last time I was watching on release day was PIC S03. Unless SNW S02 came later?
I think it did, actually.
I don’t know if I will ever watch the above. DSC, maybe, LDS, probably, SNW, most likely not.
PRO I consciously gave up on. The first season I thought was okay. The second was a grind and I quit halfway through.
There are so many shows out there right now that are so much better than what CBS is turning out.
I didn’t consciously give up on any of the above for any one reason. I guess as said above by Dukhat, my interest in the whole Trek streaming era has just waned.
The last time I was watching on release day was PIC S03. Unless SNW S02 came later?
I think it did, actually.
I don’t know if I will ever watch the above. DSC, maybe, LDS, probably, SNW, most likely not.
PRO I consciously gave up on. The first season I thought was okay. The second was a grind and I quit halfway through.
There are so many shows out there right now that are so much better than what CBS is turning out.
I don't remember exactly when, but I stopped watching Enterprise sometime during the Xindi War arc in Season 3. I just gave up. I enjoyed much of the first two seasons (unless they had THE FERENGI! or THE BORG! which lost me entirely, but I just skipped those episodes) but I was not about to watch Star Trek go fight the war in Ira- er, I mean the Delphic Expanse. Right? So after season 3 started I largely tuned out, with two exceptions: Twilight, cause the episode at least had an interesting sci fi premise, and These Are The Voyages, which I will always cherish, warts and all, as the ending of Star Trek as I knew it then.
Discovery jumped the shark with the time jump (no idea what happened, but something broke going into season 3 that just never fixed). But that's fine, I feel like after season 2 you can choose if you want whether to stay with Pike on the Enterprise in SNW or keep watching Discovery season 3 and just go with the time jump. Or both.
Strange New Worlds has been somewhat similar to Enterprise, but with MUCH better quality overall. Without spoiling anything, most of all three seasons have varied from, "Aww, this is pretty nice!" to OMG THIS IS WHAT STAR TREK IS ALL ABOUT, OMG WAS I EVEN WATCHING STAR TREK BEFORE NOW, THIS IS GOLD. With a caveat. At least one episode each from season 2 and 3 I haven't even touched or attempted to watch; the musical episode (Because I don't really like musicals) and the holodeck episode (because WHAT THE ACTUAL FLYING F**K ARE THEY THINKING PUTTING A HOLODECK IN A TOS ERA STORY). The very premise of that last one was so ridiculous to me, that I almost gave up on Strange New Worlds forever. Thankfully I didn't, because again, spoiler free, it is a genuinely awesome show all the rest of the time.
Discovery jumped the shark with the time jump (no idea what happened, but something broke going into season 3 that just never fixed). But that's fine, I feel like after season 2 you can choose if you want whether to stay with Pike on the Enterprise in SNW or keep watching Discovery season 3 and just go with the time jump. Or both.
Strange New Worlds has been somewhat similar to Enterprise, but with MUCH better quality overall. Without spoiling anything, most of all three seasons have varied from, "Aww, this is pretty nice!" to OMG THIS IS WHAT STAR TREK IS ALL ABOUT, OMG WAS I EVEN WATCHING STAR TREK BEFORE NOW, THIS IS GOLD. With a caveat. At least one episode each from season 2 and 3 I haven't even touched or attempted to watch; the musical episode (Because I don't really like musicals) and the holodeck episode (because WHAT THE ACTUAL FLYING F**K ARE THEY THINKING PUTTING A HOLODECK IN A TOS ERA STORY). The very premise of that last one was so ridiculous to me, that I almost gave up on Strange New Worlds forever. Thankfully I didn't, because again, spoiler free, it is a genuinely awesome show all the rest of the time.
I have tried Lower Decks multiple times by now. Its just WAY to much "punch line style" comedy for no other purpose then existing for me. Too much "comedy first, story later".
Enterprise..I can stand it for an episode here and there and thats it. It´s just not delivering what was promised most of the time. And the Vulcans beeing all "high horsed" and hindering is just off putting to me.
Enterprise..I can stand it for an episode here and there and thats it. It´s just not delivering what was promised most of the time. And the Vulcans beeing all "high horsed" and hindering is just off putting to me.
Only Enterprise. Specifically "Precious Cargo," that's when I was done. (Though 15 years later I went back and watched it all)
I started to miss Trek episodes here and there in season 5 of Voyager, missing progressively more and more until it "Precious Cargo" made me feel this franchise had nothing more for me.
I started to miss Trek episodes here and there in season 5 of Voyager, missing progressively more and more until it "Precious Cargo" made me feel this franchise had nothing more for me.
I've given up on four Trek series.
ENT after about 5 episodes. I found it boring
DSC after about 5 episodes. I found it horrible.
PIC after one an d a half season. I tried, I really tried but this series didn't work for me.
SNW after one season. it was interesting to start with but i couldn't stand the "replacement TOS characters".
ENT after about 5 episodes. I found it boring
DSC after about 5 episodes. I found it horrible.
PIC after one an d a half season. I tried, I really tried but this series didn't work for me.
SNW after one season. it was interesting to start with but i couldn't stand the "replacement TOS characters".
Seeing this clip from the VOY episode "Flashback" again on the BBS today reminded me that it played a big part in me giving up on watching VOY regularly:
The scripting of the scene STILL bugs the hell out of me. The "Of course, the whole bunch of them would be booted out of Starfleet today" line is SO condescending and smug, and a pretty disrespectful thing to put into an episode celebrating the 30th Anniversary of Trek.
That, and me not liking the Sulu episode in general, made me realize that I wasn't really enjoying VOY very much and was mainly watching it because it had the words "Star Trek" in the title. I finally decided that two words being in the title was a pretty silly reason to watch a show I wasn't enjoying, so I stopped cold turkey.
(Later on, I went back and saw a lot of the VOY episodes I missed when they were airing late nights on H&I, and the show massively improved after Seven of Nine came on. So while VOY has definitely grown on me, but it's still not one of my favorites.)
So I started thinking about the other times I've gotten a bit fed up with Trek in the past & stopped watching:
I gave up on ENT somewhere in S3 as I just didn't find the 9/1 metaphor Xindi arc very interesting, or at the very least, not what I was looking for on a Trek series. But I soon came back for the more TOS-prequel-y S4, as that was more what I wanted from the show. So it was more a five-minute retirement than anything.
More recently, I decided to quit watching DSC at the end of S2. I found that both seasons 1 and 2 started out pretty strongly and had really disappointing endings, so the leap to the future of the 32nd Century seemed like a good jumping off point. Maybe I'll eventually come back to it.
And honestly, this 3rd season of SNW has been trying my patience. I just watched "Terrarium," the 9th episode of the season as I write this, and it's been lots of disappointing episodes with no really great ones (IMO). I'll probably stick it out until the very end of the series, though, since there's only 17 episodes left now.
What about you folks? Have you had a last straw with any Star Trek series that got you to stop watching?
(To clarify: I'm not looking for an encyclopedic litany of everything you've ever hated about any ST series here. That will become very dull to read very quickly. More some little thing that made you say, "...Yeah, I think I'm done here." I think that is much more interesting. And if you're discussing recent episodes of SNW, please remember to use SPOILER code!)
Janeway was such a massive hypocrite in this episode. Of all the spinoff captains (of the ones I've seen), she's the most Kirk-like.
This episode was one more piece of evidence that George Takei could have pulled off a Captain Sulu series.
As for the overall OP question, what finally finished Trek for me was Icheb's death in Picard and the abomination that was DiscoTrek (I didn't manage to make it to the end of the first season of that pile of garbage).
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