Did you notice anything remotely like that in the scene in Space Seed when Khan first gives his name? Why should Kirk be "confused" just because he's encountered someone whose name doesn't mean anything to him?
The film explains who Khan is.
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Did you notice anything remotely like that in the scene in Space Seed when Khan first gives his name? Why should Kirk be "confused" just because he's encountered someone whose name doesn't mean anything to him?
The film explains who Khan is.
A documentary or Trekkies type made-for-TV fare would be I think a minimum requirement for the 50th anniversary.
I mean the fans get 2 movies/documentaries about them and the entire Star Trek phenomena gets nothing.
I know there was Shatner's Captain's doco. But I would like something on the behind the scenes stuff. Interviews with Fontana, Berman, some of the writers - Harlon Ellison. Heck I could piece it together myself from all the DVD extras but i think Star Trek deserves some professionally made piece linking all the stuff we have together plus more.
Maybe we need more than one doco to include all the Treks. Maybe the first documentary would concentrate on the beginnings of trek and a second one on the beginnings and interesting parts of ecah of the spin-off series and nuTrek. Although I'm not sure what sort of audience these documentaries would appeal to
A dramatic rendering of the story might be interesting but I'm also not keen on some big budget movie with the seedier part of Hollywood over emphasised. I'd prefer a lower budget more accurate representation. From what I've gleaned it might be interesting for a 21st entury audience to look back at the rcaial and gender machinations of Hollywood in the 60s.
The film even gives a couple of stories, with Khan softening his ideas, and then Marcus revealing who he really is (and Spock Prime, which nuSpock lays out against Khan. Khan makes no effort to deny it).
Both Kirk and Spock seem reluctant to believe what Khan is saying, but Kirk is willing to figure out a way to save his ship, and that means working with someone he doesn't know and can't trust.
Section 31-they are the secret branch of Starfleet. Admiral Marcus is the Chief of Starfleet Operations. Until someone tells me otherwise, I would imagine that he runs that branch as well.
I may be more willing to fill in the gaps that many I know, but I felt like the new film did just fine as to explaining things, and was enjoyable on many counts for me.
Also, in the discussion of Star Trek history, I would hope that David Gerrold gets some mention
Holy shit, you mean that a ton of critics and pleased moviegoers are wrong, and you're right?
I could be mistaken, but I suspect that the "wid[e]ly considered... one of the best origins stor[ies] of all time" bit is the claim about which Maurice is most skeptical.
It's explained in the scene where Marcus gives Kirk his mission.
"London was not an archive. It was a top secret branch of Starfleet designated Section 31. The development of defence technology and training our officers to gather intelligence on the Klingons and any other potential enemy with means to do us harm."
Watch it again, because I'm guessing it's been awhile. Kirk and Spock have no idea who Khan is, and Bones isn't even there during that scene.
In fact it gives two versions of Khan's backstory, from the man himself and from Admiral Marcus later. I thought it was an excellent touch, leaving the viewer wondering exactly where the truth lies.
After over a year of reading die-hard Trekkie fanrage, it's quite a welcome change to read what movie fans think. They really seem to like it.
After over a year of reading die-hard Trekkie fanrage, it's quite a welcome change to read what movie fans think. They really seem to like it.
Heck, it's moved up to my favorite Trek movie, and it made my teenage daughter a fan. Fine if some didn't like it, but personally, I couldn't have asked for more.
Trek fans alone aren't going to sustain the franchise, any more. That's why in reviving things, I'm pleased Abrams didn't change it any more than he did just to reach a broader audience. In my opinion, the essence of what Trek is and its characters were captured in the movies, and general movie audiences on the whole seemed to say, "We are very pleased."
it made watch mojos list of top origins films.
msn 100 greatest films of all time
sfx top sci fi film of the decade
95% fresh on rt
83/100 on metacrtitic
created a new generation of fans who never watched tos
overall the film was very well recivied and that is what makes it one of the best origins films of all time.
After over a year of reading die-hard Trekkie fanrage, it's quite a welcome change to read what movie fans think. They really seem to like it.
Heck, it's moved up to my favorite Trek movie, and it made my teenage daughter a fan. Fine if some didn't like it, but personally, I couldn't have asked for more.
Trek fans alone aren't going to sustain the franchise, any more. That's why in reviving things, I'm pleased Abrams didn't change it any more than he did just to reach a broader audience. In my opinion, the essence of what Trek is and its characters were captured in the movies, and general movie audiences on the whole seemed to say, "We are very pleased."
+10
I just watched it again the other day (to see the IMAX enhanced version). I just keep liking it more each time. (JJ must use my favourite Kool-Aid flavour in his Slusho
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Bonus points if you sneer at "the masses."
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Bonus points if you sneer at "the masses."
I prefer to sneer at the lumpenproletariat for greater accuracy.
Isn't that the point of a reboot ?
Bingo.
Although the original stories and continuity have not been destroyed. They've just been shunted off to another universe, so the new movies can make their own continuity--as well they should.
To use another weird analogy, the new GODZILLA remake did not "destroy" the original Japanese movies, which will still be watched and enjoyed for generations. But it did start a new cycle of GODZILLA movies with its own independent continuity.
...and the nuTrek movies aren't actually a reboot. So here we are.
Meh. My favorite "Star Trek" is actually whatever I'm holding in my hand at that moment.
No.
Wait.
That's beer, not "Star Trek".
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