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Hasbro's Power Rangers era and General Tokusatsu discussion

Here we go. The penultimate episode before the finale

Kiramagers return: "I lost the boy..."

We start the episode with it raining and everyone in sadness. We even get an ominous credit.

Everyone thought Jyuruo was dead and his teammates continued fighting. The reunion and final morph scene was well done. Garuza also redeemed himself.

An effective episode. Clever strategy from Tametomo, and a shockingly cruel response from Yodom, sacrificing Yodonna without a second thought. Although her betrayal at not being loved would've landed better if it had been seeded more clearly; I don't recall her sense of being loved as something that had really been established.

Isn't it nice how the monsters always leave the heroes these convenient lulls in the middle of major battles to have long reunion and exposition scenes?
 
Speaking of Yodonna. She's getting her own figure

https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/1195665/

125mm / 5" MiMiCHeRi STYLiNG Yodonna (Premium Bandai exclusive) - 2,750 yen, ships September 2021


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Also

https://twitter.com/hayate_0408/status/1364905889841352706


Hayate Ichinose who played Koh(RyusoulRed) in Ryuusoulger is lending his support for "Power rangers Dino Fury
 
Power Ranger's Dino Fury episode 2

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The ADR could definitely use some improvement. It was good to see the team practicing how to morph.

I was hoping Dino Fury would ditch the static black suit/black armor when they morph. Guess I was wrong

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The episode skipped over T-Rex champion zord battling the monster a bit from Ryuusoulger footage and went straight to the megazord part.

They nailed the personality with Mucus/Kureon though. It would have been weird if they made Mucus some tough/doesn't talk much villain
 
I can usually tell from the first couple of episodes whether or not I'm invested in a Power Rangers season, but thus far, Dino Fury isn't really grabbing me.

I did enjoy Destination Dinohenge and like Solon, Void Knight, Ollie's mom, and the concept of the Sporix, but everything else is various shades of 'eh' right now.

Having said that, though, I'm not giving up on the season just yet, because there are things that are coming that I'm pretty sure I'm going to really enjoy, such as our first female Green Ranger and the possible return of Mick Kanic.
 
I was hoping Dino Fury would ditch the static black suit/black armor when they morph. Guess I was wrong

That's actually a pretty cool sequence, with them jumping into that array of lights or whatever. Too bad it was all in insets so we couldn't get a really clear look.
 
Nikelodeon hasn't changed their Power Rangers page from Beast Morphers to Dino Fury, and they have the first episode DF as the Season 2, Episode 1. It's also grouped with the last four episodes of Beast Morphers, so it took me a minute to figure out why they jumped from episode 1 to episode 19. I'll give it a try tomorrow, it'll be the first Power Rangers episode I've watched since MMPR originally aired.
 
Yeah, I've gotten that impression from some of the conversations in this thread.
 
Seriously. It's gone through 3 changes in ownership since the 90's

Disney
Neo Saban era
Hasbro.

For me, the high point was pre-Disney, the first Judd/Chip Lynn-produced era when they were adapting Sentai increasingly closely -- in Space through Time Force. That was the longest continuous run of consistent quality, in my view, and it corresponded to a similar high point in Super Sentai. (Oddly, Wild Force was an even more exact adaptation of the excellent Gaoranger, yet somehow didn't manage to be nearly as good.) The Disney era was more uneven, though it peaked at the end with Jungle Fury and RPM, the only two Power Rangers seasons that significantly surpass the Sentai seasons they're based on.

Neo-Saban was mostly weak, though Dino Charge/Super Charge was much better than the rest. So far, the Hasbro era has been a vast improvement.
 
An interview with the big producer Shinichiro Shirakura himself


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Holding the Deluxe Zenkaioh

Sitting on Ohma Zi-O's throne

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Interview

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Some language has been adjusted to ease reading in English, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS AS A DIRECT TRANSLATION:

-"What is Super Sentai anyway?" If you think about it, there are Robot Anime that fit the definition as we know it. But then we also have Goranger and JAKQ now added to that name, Super Sentai. Following Tosho Daimos, Battle Fever J became the new definition of Super Sentai, a tokusatsu program with 5 human characters. However, if you consider that the definition, you can also fit in shows like Kamen no Ninja Akakage, or Gatchaman, so let's stick with the idea of a show like Combattler V; a show where 5 people pilot a robot. I thought, is there any way to go for an original setting instead of this? To make it so the giant battles at the end weren't a throwaway, so we decided on robots from the beginning.

-Having characters be robots both pre-transformation and after transformation is something that shows like Go-Busters and Kyuranger had already done, so it certainly isn't our goal to make something "weird" that hasn't been seen before in Super Sentai. When considering the capacity of our studio stage, things like the enemy base have been an issue. With sets like Yodonheim, this was solved with blanketing things in black curtains and water on the floor, among other schemes, but it left a feeling of "is this what we really want to do?" Taking into consideration both physical and monetary limitations, we started from square one asking "what is it we really want to do?"

-There is a lot of big talk going around that the "budget has been reduced." If that were the case, it would be easy for us to do 4 mecha that just make arms and legs, so what we did is in spite of that. At least from the start, we didn't want our mecha to do the same thing they always do. In that regard the "bad insides" is outweighed by the good of the gattai possibility between Juran and Gaon. (sic. For example.)

-The setting has the various legendary sentai as having fought in various parallel worlds. This has its pros and cons. There are certain things it keeps us from doing, but also certain things it allows us to do. It gives us an "escape route" for certain issues.

-Because of the setting, we needed to find an actor who could convincingly use the various items/attacks on his own, and carry the weight of the 5 heroes on his back. We needed someone who wouldn't bend or break under that pressure and so keeping that in mind, we made our selection.

-Because Saber is already doing an ending dance. we decided against doing one

-In 2001, we had both the 30th anniversary of Kamen Rider with Kamen Rider Agito and the 25th anniversary of Super Sentai with Hyakujyu Sentai Gaoranger. This setting was decided upon so that every 10 years Toei would hit a double anniversary.

-Rider's popularity has encroached on Super Sentai's "pie" since then, and this has only magnified. For example, in the early days of Heisei Rider, the enemy didn't really consist of any "generals" distinct from "monsters" or "minions." For the most part, they were just, the enemies. Now, like Sentai, Rider has come to have enemy organizations with distinct generals and minions, and even the heroes have become linked to organizations. At that point, "isn't Kamen Rider just a Super Sentai?" In addition to that, what if anything has Sentai taken from Heisei Rider? (sic. to balance that out)

-However, it's not the case that in these 20 years Kamen Rider has gained the responsibility of carrying the weight for both shows. (He laughs here.)


And Kiramager had it's finale today. Can't wait to watch it

The yearly passing of the torch moment that started in 2004 with Dekaranger

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Watched Dino Fury episode 1 this morning, and it was pretty fun, I'll definitely keep up with it.
So were the fight after Amelia and Ollie got the suits and the flashback with Zayto's people fighting with the Dinosaurs from Ryuosoulger?
 
Watched Dino Fury episode 1 this morning, and it was pretty fun, I'll definitely keep up with it.
So were the fight after Amelia and Ollie got the suits and the flashback with Zayto's people fighting with the Dinosaurs from Ryuosoulger?

No, the only Ryusoulger footage in episode 1 was that brief shot of all the "Zords" looming over the Rangers in Zayto's flashback. Hasbro seems to like making their series premieres 100% original. Usually, the only Sentai footage they use is the giant battles, with the ground-level action all-new, or mostly new. That's true of episode 2 of DF as well.
 
Oh, OK. I thought all of the fights with the Rangers in the suits also came from the Sentai shows.
So do they important the same costumes and stuff from Japan and find actors/stunt people who fit into them or just make duplicates?
 
Oh, OK. I thought all of the fights with the Rangers in the suits also came from the Sentai shows.

That used to be the case, for the most part. The main exceptions were MMPR seasons 2-3, where they kept using the Zyuranger costumes even while adapting footage from Dairanger and Kakuranger, so they had to shoot original fight footage. But even later on, they often introduced new costume variants unique to PR, like the annual "Battlizer" upgrades for the Red Ranger, so that was all new footage.

But the Hasbro seasons have gone mostly for original fight footage, even in costume. In Beast Morphers, that was partly because they made regular use of the villain armors that only showed up late in the season on Go-Busters. They're doing something similar here, with Void Knight being the Gaisorg armor that only showed up partway through the season (after being previewed in the 4-week team-up miniseries beforehand).


So do they important the same costumes and stuff from Japan and find actors/stunt people who fit into them or just make duplicates?

I think it's a mix of both. Anyway, Super Sentai tends to use the same stunt performers as Rangers year after year, so there's a standard suit actor who does all the Red Rangers (and lead Kamen Riders), a standard guy who does all the Blue Rangers, that sort of thing. So as long as PR does the same thing, the suits will always fit.
 
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Oh, OK. I thought all of the fights with the Rangers in the suits also came from the Sentai shows.
So do they import the same costumes and stuff from Japan and find actors/stunt people who fit into them or just make duplicates?

No.

I feel like you asked this question before right? They have a supply of ranger suits provided to them by Toei. That's how they can film original footage and not rely on Sentai footage to dictate what needs to happen

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Yes they ship over props and such from Japan.

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They have a stunt team in New Zealand



Coincidentally. Some people noticed that Mucus looked a little different from Kureon from Ryuusoulger




I don't know if it was specially made for PR or if it was another one Toei already had, but the they're definitely using a different suit than what was used in Ryusoulger for Kureon.
From the good waist-up photo we have, there are quite a lot of little differences between them - The blobby drips are different shapes and sizes, especially the big flopped-over one on top of the head, the one nearest the front on the underside of the mushroom cap, and the one down the chest.
The shoulder/pauldron pieces have a few differences: the pink pipes have black connectors on the ends, but the PR suit doesn't have them so the pink pipes just cut off on the edge of the costume piece, the pink pipes are flatter on the PR suit, and the various size differences in the details mean that the brown hexagonal design is in a different arrangement.
The gap between the shoulder pieces/pauldrons and the chest piece are black in Ryusoul and green in PR. Also, those parts may be rubber in Ryusoul but spandex in PR? Kinda hard to tell.
The four (two on each side) black details on the chest are bigger on the PR suit. The grey parts on the bottom of the chest piece & top of the shorts are sized differently & has a line detail down the center which the Ryusoul suit didn't.
The silver cuffs are a bit smaller on the PR suit. The hands are definitely different since they were already cracked in Ryusoulger. In PR they look to be in perfect condition.
With the face, the eyes are a slightly different shape, the irises are lighter and the pupils are slightly smaller. The lines of the nose on the PR suit is much thinner too.


Kureon

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Mucus

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I'm only noticing so far the goo straight down Mucus's chest goes further than Kleon's.

Also the pupils are changed and the silver parts on the upper side of Kureons are now black
 
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I noticed that the face was different, but I thought it was just a repaint to darken the underside of the mushroom. But that is a pretty substantial reworking.

Oh, well. It's not like Kureon was involved in the fighting, as a rule. And Hasbro PR hardly uses any non-giant Sentai footage anyway. So we're unlikely to get the kind of costume inconsistencies between Sentai and PR footage that we got in something like Turbo, where they used the higher-quality animatronic costumes built for the feature film, or for female characters like Necrolai and Camille where they toned down the "nudity" of the original costumes.
 
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