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Has anyone started watching Voyager again?

Gingerbread Demon

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Lately I have.

It is on TV here in the evenings on a constant loop of repeats but I got a box set of the whole series and now I've started going through them from the beginning.

Also isn't it funny how time changes our minds?

I couldn't get into the show the first time around but watching this again I find myself appreciating it a lot more then I did when I first watched the series many years ago.

Anyone else feel the same way?
 
Not exactly "again", because I didn't have cable TV when it was airing the first time. But I have been watching it. It's slow going at times because of a number of irritating issues about the show:
* I like Janeway as a character, but she's crazy inconsistent at times.
* I don't mind the techno babble so much, but the reset button is a real issue. Brutal, momentous, life changing events simply vanish into the ether.
* An ensign is supposed to make lieutenant. Why was that so hard?
 
Not exactly "again", because I didn't have cable TV when it was airing the first time. But I have been watching it. It's slow going at times because of a number of irritating issues about the show:
* I like Janeway as a character, but she's crazy inconsistent at times.
* I don't mind the techno babble so much, but the reset button is a real issue. Brutal, momentous, life changing events simply vanish into the ether.
* An ensign is supposed to make lieutenant. Why was that so hard?

Yeah I just noticed the Harry Kim thread elsewhere. The reset button was, and is one of my pet peeves with this show. Why did they reset episodes so many times so that nothing seemed to have an impact on future episodes? I'd love to know why they did that.
 
I did my 3rd rewatch last year, and was surprised how may episodes I had forgotten in the 15-20 years since the last rewatch
 
Yeah I just noticed the Harry Kim thread elsewhere. The reset button was, and is one of my pet peeves with this show. Why did they reset episodes so many times so that nothing seemed to have an impact on future episodes? I'd love to know why they did that.

It was deliberate, I know that much. The Year of Hell was supposed to be a season long event, but someone high up nixed that.

And let's not forget... it's minor, but very annoying. In general, to set the ship's self destruct, you need either the captain and first officer to agree, or three command level officers. With Voyager, self-destruct was solo-activated. And given that Janeway had her "Captain Ahab" moments (not a huge number, but some), it's easy to see why dual-activated destruct charges are a wise precaution.

EDIT: I think if you go back in time, you'll find gobs of threads about Harry Kim's seven years of ensignhood. It sometimes seems like that defined his character on the show, which is kind of ridiculous.
 
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Every few months I watch a few episodes but they always seem to be the same ones so recently I've been trying a lucky dip and will pick a DVD at random and then watch all four episodes. It's made me realise that despite watching it when it was first aired and having all the seasons on VHS and then DVD there are still some episodes I have no memory of. There are a few episodes I don't like but for the pathetic reason that they are a bit scary.
 
It was deliberate, I know that much. The Year of Hell was supposed to be a season long event, but someone high up nixed that.

Oh I know of that. But in general they used the reset button a hell of a lot during the 7 years of the show to the point where nothing mattered. There was never any consequence from one season to the next or even one episode to the next.
 
EDIT: I think if you go back in time, you'll find gobs of threads about Harry Kim's seven years of ensignhood. It sometimes seems like that defined his character on the show, which is kind of ridiculous.
Was he an ensign all the way through then? Doesn't get mentioned much on here does it? :lol:
 
I binge the trek shows time to time. Not sure when I’ll watch Voyager again.
 
i plan to kinda binge it in the near fututre (kinda because i will be skipping at least a third of the episodes)

Was he an ensign all the way through then? Doesn't get mentioned much on here does it? :lol:

he was

I binge the trek shows time to time. Not sure when I’ll watch Voyager again.

me too - i usually get to every show within three years but i skip episodes i don't like (voy leads this competition by a wide margin)
 
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Was he an ensign all the way through then? Doesn't get mentioned much on here does it? :lol:

I think a topic shows up here every few months. I'd be curious how many topics there are on the subject, actually. And we're not alone in noticing; it's one of the most derided decisions by the showrunners (most notably Berman); nearly every reviewer I've seen has remarked negatively about it.
 
So last night was "The Cloud" and you know I don't mind this one. It's a bit of rehash of the TOS space amoeba episode but it's still good, the one where the famous line about coffee is muttered.

"Time And Again" was good too and I never really cared for that one the first time around. This is my 3rd run of the full series and I'm finding a bit more appreciation for season despite it being a clunker of a first season. "Eye Of The Needle" was my favourite of the season.
 
Yup. I've seen a handful of episodes, those comfy ol' favorites, but am rewatching what are sometimes perceived as "lesser episodes" to gain a new perspective. "Tuvix" and "Microcosm" being two recent examples, though "Tuvix" is largely great and "Microcosm" is still better than the sum of its parts despite not being as robust as it otherwise could be, but both are still better than many offerings from TNG seasons 5-7.

Another recently rewatched entry was one of the least-liked by fandom, known as "Twisted". It's twisted for sure. There's no real way they could have made it work convincingly without another rewrite and refining. The high concept notion of making the ship like a labyrinth where its corridors change is a creative one (which I'd seen once before in another show), but on top of a spatial distortion put in as a generic cause of the problem, they made it worse by making the spatial anomaly a sentient one that's even trying to say "Howdy, may I borrow a cup of sugar from you while I fiddle with your corridors and try to crush you?" at the end just craters the episode that was already sinking, but at least they kept the cause of the problems held back to keep the moment of the current situation relatively intriguing. (Oh yeah, via X, Y, and Z axes, they could have used that "Z" one to go up and around the ring around the collar there and not worry in the slightest...) But the ship would have been torn apart long before it looped itself. The episode needed another draft to refine the ideas a bit more. Of course, as a loose metaphor, the story, its ideas, and presentation could work as something else... albeit completely unintentionally.

I'm not sure I want to give "Threshold" another viewing but it's been over a decade now... with luck, maybe I'll have misjudged it so badly that I'll go find the action figure - the one with his three tadpole offpsring he co-created - to put on display... that's right kids, your least favorite Trek adventure of all time was so misleadingly bad that they made collectible figures to play with. Just don't give them to Dark Helmet...




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Cuz that's how it's really done.


Am looking forward to "Prey" and "Killing Game" again, though they're more of the go-to episodes than the mid-level ones...
 
Watched it before PIC came out, for the first time in about 15 years - remembered most episodes, but some were completely new to me.
 
Watched it before PIC came out, for the first time in about 15 years - remembered most episodes, but some were completely new to me.
About 75% were new to me on my rewatch. I began to think I didn't watch as many as I thought.
 
"Time and Again" and TNG's "Homeward" represent the Prime Directive at its very worst.

Still on the fence about "Dear Doctor".


I'd agree with you but this time around I liked the episode.
Never mind that Janeway's uniform is suddenly in the window of that alien clothing store
 
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