News Harberts: The Klingons Are Americans

[Christopher]

America is rather divided right now, so I'd say the Klingons are the red states and the Federation are the blue states.

I'm not sure that's what Harberts meant. I get the impression from what I've read that the story involves a House leader trying to unify a divided Klingon Empire. So maybe the idea is that the Klingons are analogous to Americans as a whole, a society split by internal divisions and mistrust and trying to find a way to work together again.

 

[USS Triumphant]

So if the Klingons are America, who's the Federation supposed to be?

Scandinavia.

If the DSC Klingons are a hybrid of Klingons, Ferengi, and Pakleds, I think that would be a very on-the-nose depiction of contemporary America.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

[fireproof78]

I'm not sure that's what Harberts meant. I get the impression from what I've read that the story involves a House leader trying to unify a divided Klingon Empire. So maybe the idea is that the Klingons are analogous to Americans as a whole, a society split by internal divisions and mistrust and trying to find a way to work together again.

That would be a nice, optimistic way to go about it, but more on the nose than I prefer.

 

[Christopher]

That would be a nice, optimistic way to go about it, but more on the nose than I prefer.

It seems much less on the nose than "The good guys are Democrats and the bad guys are Republicans."

 

[fireproof78]

It seems much less on the nose than "The good guys are Democrats and the bad guys are Republicans."

True, but I am hoping for less on the nose and more good storytelling.

I don't need an overdramatic reading of the Constitution in this series

 

[Christopher]

True, but I am hoping for less on the nose and more good storytelling.

I don't need an overdramatic reading of the Constitution in this series

I think you're jumping to some pretty massive conclusions here. Just because a Trek series has elements that resonate with current issues, that doesn't make it "The Omega Glory." Star Trek has always resonated with current issues. That's integral to its DNA. But it's allegory. By definition, it isn't a literal, one-to-one copy of real events. This will be a story about the Klingons. They will presumably be portrayed in a way that makes sense for Klingons, but aspects of their situation will be reminiscent of themes and issues that are relatable to the audience. Just like ST usually does things. Really, has ST been off the air so long that we've forgotten how this works?

 

[fireproof78]

I think you're jumping to some pretty massive conclusions here. Just because a Trek series has elements that resonate with current issues, that doesn't make it "The Omega Glory." Star Trek has always resonated with current issues. That's integral to its DNA. But it's allegory. By definition, it isn't a literal, one-to-one copy of real events. This will be a story about the Klingons. They will presumably be portrayed in a way that makes sense for Klingons, but aspects of their situation will be reminiscent of themes and issues that are relatable to the audience. Just like ST usually does things. Really, has ST been off the air so long that we've forgotten how this works?

It's a joke...I do that. I made a tongue and cheek reference to "The Omega Glory" because I thought it was funny.

I know how this works, because I watch Star Wars.

 

[BillJ]

I don't need an overdramatic reading of the Constitution in this series

It would be pretty cool for Lorca (Jason Isaacs) to read it.

 

[fireproof78]

It would be pretty cool for Lorca (Jason Isaacs) to read it.

Didn't say they couldn't read it-just not overdramatically

 

[BillJ]

Didn't say they couldn't read it-just not overdramatically

I mean, why make it fun?

 

[fireproof78]

I mean, why make it fun?

Because, Star Trek has no room for humor. We're serious about our work

 

[Philip Guyott]

What is the Klingon for Eed plebnista?

Please, please, PLEASE let there be a Klingon leader in this show named T'rUM'pH.

^Surely a Ferengi would be more suitable than a Klingon...

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[Kor]

Because, Star Trek has no room for humor. We're serious about our work

Star Trek must be solemn and serious like Eucharist or an evening at the opera.
Fun and humor would be undignified and contrary to Gene's Vision (tm).

Kor

 

[Balok's Decoy]

Star Trek must be solemn and serious like Eucharist or an evening at the opera.
Fun and humor would be undignified and contrary to Gene's Vision (tm).

Kor

Be respectful. It's GENE'S VISION (TM, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, ESQUIRE)

 

[mattyhugh]

I find it's amusing that a robot started this thread...
Robots really are trying to kill us...

Robots need love too. They wanted to be loved by you!

 

[publiusr]

^Surely a Ferengi would be more suitable than a Klingon...

How offensive to my lobes.

--Pakled, of course.

 

[ancient]

The kilngons now represent college students who paid a lot of money for a humanity degree.

Because super on-the-nose allegory is a sign of cleverness now.

 

[Megapolis]

Now that more Discovery details are out, what American factions eat human corpses, including corpses of other Americans?

 

[Cyrus]

Didn't we beat this topic to death before?
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/are-the-new-klingons-supposed-to-be-white-republicans.290139/

 

[Vger23]

It would be cool if, for once, Star Trek created an alien race that was...you know...alien. Not some asinine attempt to "represent culture xyz."